After following the link, I just could not concentrate on anything else in the posting, and it turns out that the closest Hardee’s is in Arkansas.

Luckily, I have Texas chains with options like triple meat triple cheese (not to worry; you can get bacon on it, sure!) and one-pound bacon-cheddar burgers within walking distance. Plus you can count on a jalapeño pepper option here — only sliced, not whole, at Fuddrucker’s, but your advantage there is that you can substitute beer for your soda in your combo.

[Daydreaming ...]

As a co-worker likes to say, “If God didn’t mean for us to eat animals, He wouldn’t have made them out of meat!”

What to do with all the livestock? First, get a Culver’s butter burger. Then, use the livestock as props for a crappy sequel to Avatar. Gather them in a big indaba circle, say goodbye, and transport them en masse to Pandora whose atmosphere is already rich in methane. Watch where you step on Pandora next time around.

Or gather them all up and transport them to Washington, DC which is already knee deep in bull droppings.

The “solid” emissions can subsequently be used for fertilizer to grow crops which can be turned into “hamster food” for the green folks. Transportation to the fields where it can be used seems to be the main problem here. As for the “gas” emissions (and we all know what that means) – start putting Beano in all animal feed. Voila! Problem solved. And that sector of global warming caused by cow farts will be alleviated. I amaze myself at times with my scientific expertise. And all self-taught, too. Amazin’, ain’t it?

This is another demonstration of the Gnosticism that has taken over the Episcopal Church. Both flavors of that heresy are alive and well: (1) the type of Gnosticism which abhors the body and considers it evil so that it must be disciplined; (2) the type which says Spirit is everything and what we do with our bodies (or certain parts of our bodies) does not matter at all.

But the fact is that God created the universe and made all things good. It was mankind who rebelled and marred the creation. This movement is nothing more than an attempt to make vegans out of all of us.

It’s enough to make me go get a Thickburger for breakfast!

I will take this opportunity to wish all of the MCJ commenters a very Merry Chistrmas and a Happy New Year. May the light of Christ shine in your hearts this Christmastide and forever.

Peace and blessings to you all!

Every once in awhile I will run across Episcopalians who feel so good about themselves for contributing money to The Heifer Project, which buys livestock for po’ folk in third world countries. Just think of all the CO2, methane, and solid waste generated by those Episcopalian heifers. Double cheeseburger, large order of fries, and a chocolate shake, please.

Even better, if you eat a Thickburger every day, you’ll die young, thereby reducing the population!

Merry Christmas everyone.

I’ve been expecting for some time now that PETA & Co. would discover:

1. People are never going to give up on animal protien.

2. It is a proven, scientific fact that people will eat hot dogs no matter what you put in them.

3. Thousands of tons of human remains are incinerated or buried every year – wasting nutrients that could be used to save animal lives and cut our carbon footprint.

4. Since the best meat on the human body is in the legs anyway, open caskets need not be a thing of the past.

Therefore…well, I won’t insult anybody’s intelligence by finishing that sentence. I would just note that as a matter of justice (and I know my diocese will be quick to jump on this as soon as USA Today breaks the story), a government commission will need to be instituted to make sure that meat from dead minorities isn’t sold more cheaply than that from white people. We can’t have soylent inequality.

Gee, I used to tease my still-Palie wife by calling the MDG project “Buy A Goat For Jesus.” Guess I’ll have to start calling it “Buy A Goat For….SATAN!”

Well, you helped me decide what to have for lunch today, and I’m hoping my favorite cafe is open, as they have the best burger around.

CJ,
“Letting all those cows and sheep and pigs and chickens and whatnot fend for themselves would seem to be the best option.” Have you ever seen a feral cow? Who would dare unleash such fury?
Merry Christmas
Dcn Dale

Here in Wyoming we have more pronghorn (antelope) than people. Every time I drive out of town I see them stuffing their little pointy faces…I wonder how much CO2 they produce?

TEC were serious about this, it would be a moral duty for Episcopalians to buy rifles and take out a pronghorn license every year.

Oh, Chris, Merry Christmas to you and yours, including the nice folks who post here.

Tomorrow I and a few papist friends are meeting at the local steakhouse for a festive Christmas dinner. Keeping in mind your advice to try to account for two beasts at once, I plan to order the filet wrapped in bacon.

Well now… How to deal with the feral cow problem…

Ah! I have it! Reintroduce wolves, cougars, etc.!

Sure, it might cost you the occasional child or household pet, but think of all the CO2 credits!

“…it might cost you the occasional child…”

Piskies will find a way to rationalize this, as in “sacrifice” their “god”.

Oh BTW,

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…… copy and paste…keep the wave going.

To all the posters here at MCJ and to our honored Host, including the uneducated, ignorant fools who have disagreed with me from time to time, here’s wishing all of you and your kin “Vesele Vanoce!” (“Merry Christmas” in Czech) May all of you prosper and be well in the New Year. “Unto us a Son is given.”

Livestock’s Long Shadow, the widely-cited 2006 report by the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO), estimates that 7,516 million metric tons per year of CO2 equivalents (CO2 e),

Yes, but how do they know that data wasn’t falsified here, as in climategate? Do they have any emails? ie. “I’ve just completed Mike Nature’s trick of feeding them cabbage, and adding in my own flatulence in order to hide the decline”. BFF- Bovine Flatulence Falsification.

Rudolph the Red Faced Bultmann
Awoke to find himself in Hell
If you believe his twaddle
You may end up there as well.

All of the other scholars
Lauded him and spread his fame.
They never told poor Bultmann
He was playing a dangerous game.

Then one humid summer’s eve
Jesus came to say,
“Bultmann for thy heresy,
This nigh thy life be required of thee”

“Now you are lost forever,
Whatever were you thinking? Duh!
Rudolph the Red Faced Bultmann,
You’ll go down in history!”

If you think they’re loony now, just wait ’til severe anemia takes over. Iron pills can be vicious little beggars. Not to mention the economic upheaval caused by the necessary industry shift from liver to broccoli as an iron source.

And what are my eight cats going to live on – road-kill? I can just see the ugly fights now, little old ladies having shoving matches in the middle of the road over a flat squirrel…

Is this another example of Episcopalian mathematics? The U.N. report puts the animal emissions problem at 18%, but the geniuses behind this report bump it up to 51%?

They do this by, amongst other things, counting the fact that animals breathe. Well, slap me silly, but hey guys – humans breathe, too! What do you want us to do – stop respiring?

Ah, well: not long home from ‘midnight’ Mass (we had it at 9:00 p.m. this year for whatever reason) so I’ve resolved to be nice for as long as I can manage to remain in a state of grace – so happy Christmas to all you great people who hang around here, many thanks to our host for giving us a place to be as obnoxious as we please and not tossing us out on our ears, and to all our enemies, the foolish, the lost, and the plain space cadets – God bless us, everyone!

Beannachtaí na Féile agus Nollaig shona daoibh go léir!

Not only do humans breathe, but they, ahh, emit their own methane gases. And those who get their protein from beans instead of meat are the most gaseous, both in methane emissions and inane twaddle.

The solution, of course, is a tax on vegetarian environmentalists. Put the tax high enough and we could almost eliminate that source of danger to the planet.

Oh, yeah: Merry Christmas to all here at this wonderful gathering place. Even the revisionistas.

Off-topic, does the PBess have an alibi for the time around when the Holy Father was tackled today?

Peter C., the news reports did say it was a mentally disturbed woman …

May God bless us all, every one!

Great humor here, thanks to all.

On the serious side, I happen to know the authors, and they are not Episcopalians or Gnostic or trying to make anyone give up animal protein. Nor do they include any new data in their report; so they can’t be said to participate in Climategate.

You may find it good holiday reading to read the authors’ original report, and then a follow-up piece showing that their case can even make sense for climate skeptics. The first one is at http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6294 and the second one at http://www.wellfedworld.org/PDF/FAOConsult12-09.pdf .

A blessed, merry Christmas to all!

We are having a white Christmas in Fort Worth, of all things and hardly anyone was at Mass, but somehow that made it all the more cheerful.

And to think that, back when I was in college, we were urged to feel guilt at the slaughter of those millions of gaseous bison that littered the American plains. As well as, by extension, the loss of the herbivores on the Serengenti. Little did we realize the dire deeds those creatures wrought by their sheer existence on the face of this fragile little planet. What was Gaia thinking, to evolve them in their teeming herds in the first place? FEH!!!

SouthCoast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-Pw6j80o3A

Cheers

J.M., thanks! *G*

Worldwatcher, re: http://www.worldwatch.org/node/6294.

Great humor there, thanks. Can you clarify a few points for me?

1. According to the chart on page 11, 22 billion tons of GHG emissions were simply uncounted before this latest estimate. If that is the case, if such a vast quantity just slipped under the radar until someone decided to redo the way they estimate GHG emissions, it seems we do not have a reliable notion of how much GHG emissions are due to human activity.
How can an accurate correlation between climate change and human generated GHGs be mapped out if we have no reliable, empirical way of determining how much GHGs there are, let alone from human causes?
The report admits there are mitigating mechanisms (such as CO2 being stored in the cattle themselves). So I repeat, without any solid empirical data of how much CO2 is actually being emitted, all we are left with are speculations that can be off by billions of tons. And you expect people to be concerned on the strength of that?

2. Page 12 breezily asserts More to the point, livestock (like automobiles) are a
human invention and convenience, not part of pre-human
times, and a molecule of CO2 exhaled by livestock is no
more natural than one from an auto tailpipe.
But surely this is a bit of an exaggeration? Human beings did not engineer cattle. That seems a bit disingenuous. You need to do something a little more thorough, like at least try to estimate what wild herd sizes would be without human interference, estimate what the GHGs would be from that, and then subtract from the current number attributed to domesticated livestock.

A case that can only “make sense” if one is prepared to swallow blatant absurdities and inaccuracies isn’t much of a case. I suspect anyone unbiased would have to drop quite a lot of acid for that to occur. Are you really so attached to this idea that you’re prepared to ruin the economy over it?

Worldwatcher, I’d really like to know if I’ve mischaracterized the report in any way.

I really appreciate the fact that you are watching over the world for us, and I’d be glad to support a global oligarchy in which you were a high ranking member, but first you have to convince me that you know whereof you speak.

Merry Christmas

Smurf Breath, love the ditty. LOL!