Chris, we never even voted on the last Resolution.
It got amended by the standing committee before the Convention, and after it had been published. Amending it turned into a mess, by the time 300 copies were made, there were at least 4 more amendments to the amendment.
It got terribly confusing, and everyone (at least most) lost track of what, or why we were voting. That’s why it was tabled UNTIL March Convention. It was the last actions of a VERY long day, and most were past ready to go home. Me included. It was tabled almost unanimously with that being the only vote about Resolution 5. Lots has been made of the fact it was not “passed”, but that’s not really what happened.
Grandmother in SC

FYI Chris:

Uncle Diogenes has just put up his latest on the situation: Wet Hankies in Tomorrowland. Uncle D is at the top of his game, as usual.

Bp. Lawrence and the Diocese of South Carolina have my respect in what they have done, which may, just possibly, put 815 in check by withdrawing, but not leaving. Of course, the Presiding Narcissist and her masters in Integrity will see it as betrayal, but they have shown themselves to be self-absorbed to the point of psychosis.

It will be interesting to see what 815 decides to do about this.

I disagree, Chris. Whereas people like Seitz and Radner are truly enablers of the idiocy at 815, this move by SC is a step in the right direction: towards Martin Luther King, Jr. and Gandhi. I see this as a form of ecclesiastical non-violent protest against the abusive Stalinists in TEC, especially Dr. Jefferts-Schori.

To what effect? The rest of the Communion will see in radical detail how TEC abuses people needlessly – even those who do not want to leave its organizational ethos. Even some of the more lefty provinces will take note of this, though what they do with it remains to be seen. The biggest impact, however, will be when Dr. Jefferts-Schori accepts Mark Lawrence’s letter of renunciation (though he will never send one) and the entire Diocese of South Carolina will be forced to either follow their leader or submit to more tyranny.

So I think there are multiple effects from this move worthy of note…and even worthy of the effort.

-Jim+

I’m so over all the drama within the TEC/ECUSA or what ever.
But, as to the strange vestment worn by that “person”, to me it looks like a windmill down the road in Oklahoma or Western Kansas. My daughter saw a sandwich – bread, meat, lettuce, cheese, etc.
They used to have liturgical colors and designs, but now they have earth-worshiping, ecological designs that look like old hippie Aunt Sunshine-Blossom quilted it. But then, they used to be a Christian church. What ever…

While I applaud SC’s action, it IS in fact just a holding action until next general convention. As her highness, st. Bonnie has informed the SC delegates: Any action declaring a GC resolution null and void is itself null and void.
So, all that is needed to depose the entire SC leadership (Bishop included) is a GC resolution making mandatory what has until now been optional. Homosexual clergy, a minimum diocesan allotment to the national church, etc… almost anything will do.
Then wait for SC to step out of line, and release the flying monkies!

Any attempt to depose Bp. Lawrence or punish the diocese should be met with a civil action, preferably several. Herself controls the ecclesiastical courts, but not the American courts.

The stole reminds me of a windmill on a farm in the 1930′s, sucking the life out of the land.

I sew vestments, this is tacky. I know the person sewing is offering it as a gift of their talent. Sometimes you wish the stole or vestment had a caption card so you knew just “what” they were thinking.

Hmmmm. As near as I can make out, it consists of two slices of French bread topped with pizza dangling from a windmill. Theological significance? Could be, I guess, the Holy Trinity with the bread/pizza slices representing the Son and Holy Spirit begotten and proceeding respectively from the Father/Windmill. But the theory behind representing the 2nd and 3rd Persons as pizza bread has got me stumped. Anyone…anyone…Beuhler…Beuhler…?

Chris,
I agree with Grandmother’s assessment (post #1). Resolution #5 never made it to a final vote – and for very good reasons.

What did this special convention accomplish? I think it made the Diocese of SC feel good about itself. Will it actually produce any useful results? We will just have to wait and see. But if Bonnie Anderson’s attention to this convention says anything it is that 815 leadership was very worried about what SC was planning to do.

Now it remains to be seen just what the Harpy in Chief intends to do about it.

How will these Resolutions affect those SC parishes that are prayerfully considereing whether to separate from TEc?

Will these resolutions cause them to stay?

Or will they see it as symbolic holding action that’s rather meaningless and finally leave apostate TEc.

Is this a Roman priest? The banding and possibly square neck opening imply theat the guilty party is either RCC or an Anglican who has been shopping in the wrong store. Either way I’d say he spilled the spaghetti sauce.

Mr. Johnson, the reason you cannot think of anything witty to write about this stole is that it is Too Ugly for Words.

I think whoever they conned into modeling the stole was correct to have their face hidden.

The person who hid the face would be whoever decided to mock this Anglican priest who is the only non-Episcopal clergy in the west Texas town where this welcoming ceremony occurred. He and his church were already under attack by the local Episcopalians and pagans who were upset that a group of Anglicans might not subscribe to what TEC is up to. This photo was taken as the congregation presented him with the stole as a gift. He had never worn it before and it’s not known whether he liked it, only that he accepted it graciously. But thanks for all the catty, snarky remarks that make the writers at least as wonderful as the local Episcopalians.

‘scuse me, that should have been non-Episcopal Anglican clergy.

Nobody who will be back: My “catty, snarky” remarks, if you care to check, had nothing whatsoever to do with an welcoming ceremony or the person in the photo. It had to do with the fact that the vestments and/or stole are ugly. They were ugly when I first looked at them and they are still ugly. Confine your accusations to the facts or don’t make them. The circumstances under which the photo of the ugly vestments was taken are irrelevant to my comments. Your Episcopo “guilt trip” plan won’t work with me.

Guess what Don, I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think. My comments weren’t directed at you but to those who thought they could second-guess the person wearing the stole. but this is for you: I’m not Episcopal or Anglican or any other of the pseudo-Christian persuasions so well represented here, so take your ‘Episco-guilt’ accusation and stick it. The web site of that church has a link to this site; amazing, how those Christians love each other. Gotta say that agnosticism is a lot more honest.

Nobody who will be back,

I am sorry if you or anyone else are offended by my comments about the stole. As I wrote above, I know that a person making it is giving of themselves. Whether I like the outcome, I know the person who made it did give thought into its making, and used their talent to make it. It is a gift of love.

Having said that, my viewpoint is that a vestment has two purposes. The first is to cloak the persons wearing them and set the focus on God. The second is to be representational of God: Father, Son and Holy Spirit. A vestment that takes the attention from God fails in its purpose to unify us with Him – in my opinion.

Since, as you say, this is a West Texas parish, if the representation of that area is in the stole and it was given as an installation gift, it does give a better context. But my opinion remains the same, it takes away from the focus on God during the service.

The complaint that I have about vestments like these is that they take the focus off of God and put it in the people. We have seen many vestments of late that do that. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

May God bless this parish and their new priest. And may God bless the artisan(s) that crafted the stole. May He increase them and their talents as He sees fit – according to His purposes and will – not mine.