Bishop Bruno is just pathetic. What more is there to say?

CJ
Your too serene comments about these matters are starting to worry me. For heavens sakes amigo, have an opinion!

I wonder about Bruno’s thoughts on the “arson of churches, re-conversion of Christians to Hinduism by force and threats of physical violence, distribution of threatening literature, burning of Bibles, raping of nuns, murder of Christian priests and destruction of Christian schools, colleges, and cemeteries.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Christian_violence_in_India

One might consider the very extensive discrimination, and in some cases outright persecution, suffered by many Christians in Hindu India.

This man is not a bishop nor are these two women priests of the true Church of Jesus Christ. These are devotees of another god.

Like Law Enforcement, the new wears off and the excitement and outrage turns to “just another day at the office”. But, you keep doing it in the hope that every now and then you done something good. Keep up the good work; it does make a difference…… Now get back out there and do your job!

Care to explain that little contradiction?

OK, this is how it works: If Jesus says “don’t do this” you are mis-reading the text. Except of course in those cases where it is obvious that this is what he actually said. And when Jesus says “do this” then consider carefully the cultural context. You can generally infer the cultural context by looking at only that one verse, and if it is obvious that he didn’t really mean “do this” then of course, there is your cultural context.

Of course, a Hindi foundation would have an award for “Advancement of Religious Pluralism” because pluralism is at the heart of Hinduism. So really the award is for the advancement of Hinduism.

Hang it up high there on your wall, Jon Bruno – your award for the advancement of Hinduism.

If Christians ever get back control of St. John’s Pro-Cathedral, the first agenda item is an exorcism. There are a few too many gods in there right now.

Jesus never explicitly said anything about homosexuality so that’s not a sin anymore.

Yeah right. Jesus in fact did say lots about homosexuality, sodomy, incest, and other perversions – mostly about how their practitioners are damned — and Paul added more, about how it doesn’t matter how personally devout you are, how “SAVED” you are, how “republican” you are, if you name is Kendall or Sarah, if you stay in the gay church you’ll be damned too!

We don’t need to repeat liberal lies.

This man is not a bishop nor are these two women priests of the true Church of Jesus Christ. These are devotees of another god.

Yep. I pick DAGON.

Bruno’s time as a professional football player must have scrambled his brains more than usual.

Sinner, tighten the filter some, that was pretty rambling. It sounds like you’re drunk, and it’s way early for that.

In Malachi 2:1-9 God speaks to these blind rebellious self-serving people. God has NO regard for hindu, muslim, buddhist, or gay TEGC cults, and worse, they have no regard for or kinship to Him.

AnglicanXn,

Right on! For backup for that position, see http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/sports/football/30dementia.html?_r=1

Now, Mr. Johnson, as to “you people aren’t even trying to make intellectual sense anymore”; when did the revisionists ever even really try? They have ALWAYS been provokers of a big shout-down contest. These people listen as well as I play the sousaphone (which, BTW is not at all). For an antidote, see http://www.gty.org/Resources/Print/Sermons/42-250 .

Got nothing to say on this one, Christopher. No way can I come up with any funny comments.

It’s one thing to apologise for racial discrimination in what should be the church of neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female – if Indian Christians were treated as inferior to European Christians, or the notion that native peoples were savages who needed civilising – but saying “Sorry for being Christian and wanting to share that with you”?

Where do you go with that?

Christopher Johnson: “But the fact that “sin” is whatever that pseudo-spiritual fraud thinks sin should be means that as far as J. Jon Bruno is concerned, these terms are nothing more professional jargon for particularly gutless high-church atheists.”

Name-calling.

Okay.

Fuinseoig,

The best I can come up with for such persons is “self-hating shrew”, which isn’t that funny, but might be good for a rueful sort of sad chuckle.

God have mercy.

I note Rev MacQueen has written in to Stand Firm and explained everything. Apparently the editor of India Abroad found a way to interfere with Episcopal Life On-Line, inserting incorrect assertions about what Bishop Bruno said.

One key mis-quote that MacQueen points out is that the bishop actually apologized for Christians “proselytizing” not “converting.” I suspect that the interfering editor of India Abroad looked “proselytize” up in the Oxford English Dictionary and found the definition “convert a person from one belief to another.” A natural error.

It sounds like you’re drunk, and it’s way early for that.

Speak for yourself…

Fuinseoig, I agree that there’s really nothing amusing about a Christian bishop apologizing for the work of Christian missionaries of the past.

I am saddened to remember that Jon Bruno and I were in the same class at Virginia Semminary, where the words “Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel” are lettered just above the central stained glass window. He must have forgotten …

Ed the Roman,
If Sinner can manage all that italics and bold while drunk, then I say “good on you, Mate”!

I heard while in India the Hindus have about 100 million gods… wonder about Bruno?

anonagain, I’ve heard from both Hindus and from a reliable book that there are about 33,000. It may seem like more becausse gods often have different avatars and attributes.

And thanks, Michael D, for pointing out MacQueen’s response at SF. It’s deluded nonsense. She insists that “proselytization” is using force or coercion to get people to convert, but there is little to no evidence that I am aware of that this goes on. The Christian social workers I know of in various parts of the world give services without regard to religious status, and particularly so in India and Muslim countries where it’s the law. She’s buying the Hindu extremist line without evidence.

Well, I guess Pope Benedict XVI will not be in line for a similar award. His prayer intention for October is:

“That the entire People of God, to whom Christ entrusted the mandate to go and preach the Gospel to every creature, may eagerly assume their own missionary responsibility and consider it the highest service they can offer humanity”.