What’s really wacky is that the TEC inner circle of ruling poobahs has already drafted all of the questions and ALL OF THE ANSWERS. That’s how TEC does “process.” But they get to go to some cool places and do some fun stuff on the church’s dime, so, why not?

Exactly, Fr. Tim! These people will not give a rip whether the plan is realistic or not. They will spend “other people’s money” to go to exotic places, have a good time, and pretend to be building the Kingdom. All of this while accomplishing jack squat!

The Episcopal Church (US) – getting more irrelevant by the day but costing you more money!

Let it be so: given the evil monsters TEO’s bigwigs actually are, it’s better that they lose their ill-gotten funds ASAP!! The sooner they’re broke and having to sell off their assets, the better!!!!

“… to develop a strategic plan, updated annually, that identifies and tracks the missional, financial, societal, cultural and other challenges and opportunities facing The Episcopal Church; considers alternative paths of action; recommends a path; defines measurable indicators of success of the selected direction and a specific timeline”

How about this?
Vision Statement: Great Commission.
Mission Statement: Great Commandment.

I’ve heard it said that a consultant is someone who borrows your watch and tells you what time it is.

Why do I think the folks who drafted this gem have never had a private sector job in their lives?

Christopher, can I just ask – exactly how many bodies are in charge of running The Episcopal Church?

Because I see The Church Center down here, and that – along with General Convention, the Presiding Bishop, The Executive Council, the House of Bishops, the House of Deputies, and I’m sure I’ve forgotten someone – is yet another “This is the only body that can make decisions for us.” I’m not even counting all the Committees because my brain is too small to handle that size of a number.

Guys – one Pope and a Curia. Really much simpler by comparison.

Futurist Consultant?

Sounds like a job for the SF geeks amongst us. In the year 2019, we will all be using our personal levitation belts to get to church, which will be held on Mars every second St. Darwin’s Day, of which there will be twelve in the year, plus six feasts of the Beloved Disciple, the Blessed Dawkins. Celebrations officiated over by the Spong cyborg, of course.

More proof that the Episcopal Church is experiencing death by middle management: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUIQX5esnNo

Boondoggle.

What? No paid clown celebrants?

Fuinseoig, don’t forget the various feasts of the Blessed Anti-Mother, Margaret Sanger.

“The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.” Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

“For crying out loud, TEO could sue a parish out of its meeting house for what this thing will cost.”

$219,000? I’m not sure David Booth Beers works that cheaply.

Well midwestnorwegian….they will be in La La Los Angeles close to Disneyland…anything is possible with TEc. Nothing like all things are possible with God. They left Him at the alter at the first clown eucharist.

Annually updated 10 Year Plans! Yeah that ought to really bring people into the fold! The good thing about TEC is that it is well on the path to self-destruction. The bad thing about TEC is it will not destroy itself quickly enough!

Me thinks it may be time to start collecting my church pension…

Lord, I feel like I’m in the twilight zone. What will this internecine conflict accomplish? What is the TEC thinking? The churches are owned by non-profit corporations, yes they must abide by the church policies when they want to reamin associated with it, but once they leave the deed comes with them per all concepts of property law, justic, and common sense.

TEC is waging a war of attrition in fort worth, with a homosexual activist hired to spearhead their lawsuit. Jonathan D.F. Nelson, the lead attorney in The Episcopal Church’s lawsuit against the Dioscese of Fort Worth, is an outspoken homosexual and active member of the North Texas Gay-Lesbian-Bisexual-Transgender alliance.

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/publish/article_10483.php

Nelson, 63, lives in Fort Worth with his partner of three years. According to one of his interviews with the Dallas Voice, the Dallas gay newspaper, Nelson’s mission is “to assist in the recovery of property rightfully belonging to the Episcopal Church. However, because the church has so courageously grappled with issues like the ordination of women and gays, I do feel a personal bond with them.”

Original thread: http://dontstealmysteeple.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19

What an inappropriate, meddling resolution. Synod should not be trying to micro-manage the leadership.

But I agree with Sasha – go at it TEC: micro-manage yourself into oblivion.

Why do I think the folks who drafted this gem have never had a private sector job in their lives?

I dunno, Bill. I’ve been to a few marketing meetings that didn’t sound too, too different from this.

Delusional and grandiose!

If you’re having the meetings at all, $1k/meeting/head is not out of line.

Chris,
The title of this thread, “Event Horizon” has me thinking of the nightmare of a movie of the same name with Lawrence Fishburn. The irony is that the movie and TEC seem to have similar scripts. Both deal with suicide, both try and recapture the past and both try and accomplish the impossible. Both try to move too fast (in the case of the movie-faster than the speed of light) and both wind up with intrusions from “unknown entities”.

Resolved, That all toilet paper rolls at 815 be replaced with wads of $100 bills.

Where do you go to apply for the futurist gig? Sounds pretty cool. Probably could expand and become chief futurist for the JSC as well, and turn the entire Communion into a self fulfilling prophecy.

Chris – This steps into an area where I have a heap of professional experience. $1000 per person for a meeting isn’t out of line, but it depends on what you’re getting for your dollars.

$500 per person for a two day meeting is also typical. It could include air, meeting space, hotel room, some food, etc. This is a typical high end business hotel.

I’ve done some for $2250 per person for a four day meeting. That might include air, meeting space, hotel room, full board food, a round of golf, fly fishing, etc. This is a resort.

A grand per person isn’t out of line at all. It could be a heck of a lot lower, but it could be a whole lot higher too.

Oh, and we do webinars for about 1/10th the cost of their video conference.

Mark, I want a complimentary $2500 four-day seminar. Preferably somewhere tropical.

diane in nc with a small d – No problem. You are, of course, a petroleum engineer or petro-geologist, right?

Dale,
The event horizon is the point beyond which nothing escapes the sucking black hole, which in this case is the point where your money and sanity disappear from the universe completely.

Mark Windsor,
“Oh, and we do webinars”
Is that where you cook bratwurst on a Weber Grill?

Matthew
June 29, 2009

” death by middle management” that was a funny link

Dale – That’s a secret…that’s REALLY why the price of a barrel of oil is so high.

Chris, out of date in three years? You’re an optimist. Three months is more like it.

OK. Look. Here’s a suggestion.

1. Pray
2. Appoint a true Christian as an Archbishop.
3. All existing bishops swear fealty to that Archbishop
4. All priests & deacons swear fealty to their Bishop
5. The Archbishop tells ‘em what to do.
6. They do it.

You could call it, gee, I dunno, “A church”

naa, never work.