Posted by Christopher Johnson | Thursday, February 7th, 2013 | Uncategorized | 15 Comments

The Episcopal Diocese of Mississippi repeals the laws of physics:

While a general ban on the blessing of same gender unions remains in place, [Bishop Duncan M. Gray, III] will allow congregations which self-select and undergo a thorough process to move toward blessings of same gender unions.

15 Comments to SERIOUSLY, DUNC?

February 7, 2013

These people are delusional. KJS thinks she can get away with denying she called Lawrence a tyrant, and now Gray says it’s still a ban although it isn’t. Do they actually think they’re fooling anyone?

FW Ken
February 7, 2013

Tyrant was the least of her rant. Linking him to mass murder was the height.

Personally, I think the woman is either going crazy or just can’t hide the craziness anymore.

Don Janousek
February 7, 2013

So,in self-electing if a congregation decides that murder is OK, this is fine”

If I “self-select” that I have a waiver for Commandments I, V and VI, God is “down” with that?

Amazing how far the Episcopo Gay Cult has fallen. According to Dante, they would be at about the Sixth Circle of Hell and stil descending.

Don Janousek
February 7, 2013

OT – This Saturday, February 9, will be the 49th anniversary of the Beatles on Ed Sullivan.

I am sooooooooooooooooooo old!

FW Ken
February 7, 2013

I remember the Beatles first time on Ed Sullivan, but then, I also treatment Elvis from the waist up.

SC Blu Cat Lady
February 7, 2013

Really? Does the bishop think he is fooling anyone with such duplicity? He must think he is fooling at least some in his diocese. Really? He is as delusional as KJS. Sadly this sort of duplicity is common in TEC these days.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
February 7, 2013

Liberals are so open-minded that often the only thing moving around their mind is a draft!

Frankie N
February 7, 2013

“According to Dante, they would be at about the Sixth Circle of Hell and stil descending.”

Dropping with the glide angle of a set of car keys!

Miss Sippi
February 8, 2013

I was part of a group that met twice with Bp. Gray and found it quite frustrating. He is a nice man, and well liked in the diocese, but I had the distinct impression of having been patted on the head with a friendly, “there, there.” Anyway, having made the journey to Orthodoxy, all I can say is – good luck, y’all.

Allen Lewis
February 8, 2013

Bishop Gray should be careful how he plays with words. They can be sharp and he might hurt himself!

“It’s not a ban because I say it’s not” seems to be the latest in a long line of vapid TEC memes.

February 8, 2013

-Insert Monty Python Dead Parrot Sketch Here-

February 8, 2013

I’m confused by this. So there is a ban on same-sex blessings, but if a parish is willing to go through an authorised process, then they can “move toward” same-sex blessings?

Is “moving toward” the same thing as “performing and/or celebrating” or does it mean the parish – after careful training – can lay a printout of the TEC Officially Recommended Same-Sex Commitment Recognition Ceremony and Blessing on the ground and then walk up to it within six inches or so?

The “self-selected” language is redundant because, unless the bishop means that parishes in his diocese regularly find themselves hosting ceremonies that they know nothing about (“We just went to church last Sunday as usual and imagine our surprise when we found ourselves sacrificing a piglet to Demeter and Kore in the Thesmophoria rituals! Who could have guessed that would happen?”), then of course they will “self-select” for whether or not they’re interested in having same-sex blessings: oh, I apologise; I meant, of course, interested in undergoing a process to move towards same-sex blessings, not actually have same-sex blessings, which are banned in the diocese generally.

Charles E A Johnson+
February 8, 2013


That deserves to be reproduced at Cafe Press! Truly priceless, and quite apt..

Jacob Morgan
February 8, 2013

Reminds me of the joke about a math class where the professor asked the class (of all guys) that if they started at that wall and the prettiest women in school were at the other wall and if they could take as many turns as they wanted moving closer to them by half each time, would they elect to do so. The science students said it wouldn’t be worth it, by cutting the distance in half each time they would never close the gap entirely. The more practical engineering students said sure, may never close the gap entirely, but close enough for all practical purposes.

When all the procedures and liturgies and such are laid out, they’ll be close enough for all practical purposes, even if they are off limits in theory.

Michael D
February 8, 2013

A classic word-bomb. I refer people to the Principle of Explosion, a theorem of classical logic which states ex falso quodlibet or ex contradictione sequitur quodlibet or more informally “from a contradiction, anything follows.”

Thus if you assert both “a ban is in place” and “congregations may move forward” then you can honestly say that all things are forbidden and all things are allowed. Which is perhaps a nice place to be in the zeitgeist, though not in the Kingdom of God.

The Anglican Church of Canada passed a similar decree a few years ago, stating (as I remember) that the “local option” for same sex marriages was not allowed, but that individual dioceses could make their own policies.

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