Both candidates appear to have severe problems with their Trinitarian theology.

Romney’s creed dissolves the unity of the substance, while Obama gives the impression that he’s added a fourth person to the hypostases.

Oh, but Sully couldn’t be the Courageous Hero Speaking Truth to Power if he were just another homosexual Episcopalian going to Services the morning after his “boys night out” orgy.

You don’t know a single thing about this country, do you, Sully?

I only read the snippet here, but I would say that he is not exactly batting a thousand in knowledge of his “own church [sic].”

“…a religious test had better be required as a qualification to this particular office or public trust under the United States.”

At least Sullivan thinks so.

I love liberals and progressives. They are so amusing when they get hysterical. They do so on a regular basis. I believe they all suffer from Chicken Little Syndrome.

There is always some disaster about to happen that requires a bullying, all-intrusive State to rectify.

Watch your wallets and you toddlers, folks! The liberal hysterics are rampant!

Here’s the deal about Catholics like Sully: he’ll rant and rave, priss, prance preen and posture, then at the end, he’ll probably call a priest and be reconciled to God. One day, he’ll could be St. Andrew Sullivan. Ok, I’m not waiting for the canonization liturgy in St. Peter’s square, but you get the drift.

I dunno, in a strange sort of way who BETTER to be president than a Mormon since Mormonism is a totally American born and bred religion that played a significant role in our nation’s history. No pesky “loyalties” to a “foreign potentate” over in Rome or Canterbury or Constantinople, right?

My best friend in college was a member of the Reorganized LDS Church (they are now called simply the Community of Christ), the group which did NOT follow Brigham Young to Utah and, at least at one time, insisted that only a direct descendant of Joseph Smith could be their leader. Their church headquarters was in Independence, Mo. and my friend once said we should go check it out some weekend. I said sure, if she would return the favor by going to Rome with me Never did make it to either place though.

Funny how “liberals” get hysterical about Mormonism, but are down comfy with big O’s Muslimism. Talk about misogynist, intolerant, intrusive, incompatible with a free people, Muslims have it all over Mormons!

Mitt Romney: Mormon. I rest my case. Don’t pretend you wouldn’t have the same problem with an atheist or a Moooslim.

Mitt Romney: “Hey, I’m a business guy, I know how to create jobs.” Riiiight. In China.

Mitt Romney: “Trust me, I’ll balance the budget.” Riiiiight. All by your self? Cut me a break.

Hey, why not take a look at a libertarian like Gary Johnson?

Clown Celebrant: why not just refuse to vote. It will have the same effect.

Oh, and this is the Libertarian on a somewhat important issue:

Q: You have unorthodox takes, for a member of the GOP, on abortion.
A: I support women’s rights to choose up until viability of the fetus.

(Rolling Stone, June 15, 2011)

Oh, and he wants to cut off all aid to Israel, doesn’t think Iran is developing nuclear weapons, and thinks that if they are it’s Israel’s problem, not ours. (http://www.ontheissues.org/Gary_Johnson.htm)

So no, Gary Johnson is not an alternative, at least not for the non-isolationist.

Actually, I don’t have the same problem with a Mormon as I would have with an atheist or a Muslim. Atheism is a negative, destructive ideology incapable of building a healthy society; the only things atheists know how to build is gulags. Mormonism is a Christian heresy whose ethical base and social dynamic are compatible with the American ethos. The ethical and social structures of Islam are not, I believe, compatible. Even when you are talking about “moderate” Islam, it seeks to me the underlying culture will not mix well with America no more than its mixing well in Europe.

I seem to remember Andrew Sullivan announcing his departure from Catholicism several years ago in a snit over some transgression, likely the Church’s ongoing refusal to accept his theology on homosexuality and radical feminism. I assume that “systematic discrimination against women” has to do with priestesses. If he reviewed the Church’s history honestly he would know that no other church or major religion on Earth gave women such opportunities as Catholicism did, including the authority wielded by great abbesses like Hildegard of Bingen and the women who wielded great influence over men such as Catherine of Sienna and Theresa of Avila, the nuns and sisters who established and ran schools, colleges, hospitals and the like. No other organization worldwide operates as many facilities to treat the victims of AIDS, most of whom violated the Church’s teachings in contracting the condition and often in open contempt.

Sullivan is against anybody or organization, inlcuding the Catholic Church, who does not approve of the gay lifestyle, the highest from of perfection and civilization ever acheieved by mankind, and more particulalry gay marriage. He will however vote for anybody who IS on favour, be he/she Secular anti-Religionists, Mormon, Evangelical, psuedo Catholic, Episcopalian, Muslim or Caluthumpian. He brings in Feminism in support of his argument only because he perceives them as allies in bringing down the Christian mortal order. As such he has no right to refer to the Catholic church as “my” Church when he denies its fundamental moral teachings.

I also wonder if he is aware of the latest historical reassesment of the Inquisition on the basis of its publicly available documents and archives especially on the issue of the grant of Natural Justice to the accused relative to the other European Courts assisting the State. authorities of the time to preserve the unity inclduing the relgious unity of the state. Compare for example the English Court of the Star Chamber.

Sullivan does not appreciate that he is not as smart as he thinks. As a public commentator his prejudices and his gay agenda badly cloud his judgement.

The attempt by some Leftists to arouse bigotry against Mormons is quite understandable. For quite a few on the port side of our politics, their Leftism is effectively a substitute religion. People who disagree with them politically are not fellow Americans to be reasoned with, but heretics to be crushed. In that endeavor any tactic, no matter how reprehensible, is permissible for them.

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I attended an Arts fair in the Blue Ridge mountains of North Carolina last weekend sponsored by the local Episcopal outlet. Big event – I would guess 10-15K attendees, held in a large pasture in the gorgeous valley of Valle Crucis.

Anyway, Episcopalians were busy making apple butter, apple cider, funnel cakes and walking tacos while the LDS had pairs of evangelists mingling with the crowds and talking about their faith. And I have the pictures to prove it.

Not converting to the LDS anytime in this life….but I certainly will vote for a good man like Romney.

I recall (as if it were yesterday) that the fact that JFK was a Roman Catholic meant that he would be taking orders from the Bishop of Rome. JFK had a few serious problems but that was not one of them.

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I’m voting for Romney, but only because four more years of Obama would be a disaster. However, I do not trust Romney because he’s a member of an Anti-Christ cult. The Mormons have long desired to fullfil a prophecy that they would save and take over this country. If Mittens gets into office as president they will see that as a fullfilment of that prophecy. Question: how much influence will the Mormon leadership have on Mitt? Yeah, I’m voting for him, but I say, watch him like a hawk. His outward ‘nice’ appearance could just be whitewash.

The increasing religious bigotry of the left reflects the hatred many atheists feel towards religious belief of any kind. They don’t hate Obama’s religious background because (a) they don’t think he’s serious about it and (b) they think it’s correct about how awful white Americans are. FW Ken has it right, I think, about atheists and Mormons both.

I could vote for an agnostic, but not for an aggressive atheist, because the former has questions but doesn’t hate. I would have grave reservations about voting for a Muslim because Islam, unlike Mormonism, is a political religion in its essence and that makes its compatibility with American democracy very questionable.

I find it interesting in this election we get to vote for a Mormon or a moron.

As PBS North, our wonderful Canadian Broadcorping Castration (I said the at least once on air) observed.

As the conservative pundit and former Bush-era speechwriter, Peggy Noonan, said on Sunday, the most interesting thing about this race now is that no one has any idea how it’s going to turn out.

But if Obama can’t stop Romney’s momentum, I may well be witnessing another historic moment in Chicago two weeks from now.

And listening to a long, loud, anguished progressive scream.

Donald R. McClarey wrote (above):
“…people who disagree with [liberals] politically are not fellow Americans to be reasoned with, but heretics to be crushed.”

Unfortunately, that’s pretty much how I’ve come to view the Left. They can’t be reasoned with, and they are a serious threat to our liberty and our prosperity, and that of our children, and many of their policies, outcomes, and causes are obviously Satan’s, as well; so, like Islam, I also view them as Satanic.

That’s an inescapably logical deduction to me. It’s not a rant or an emotionally based position; but it’s going too far for some people.

“Unfortunately, that’s pretty much how I’ve come to view the Left.”

Wise words from Kipling’s poem IF:

“Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,”

Katherine:

” They [the leftists]don’t hate Obama’s religious background because (a) they don’t think he’s serious about it…”

A large portion of the right knows he isn’t serious about it.

“our wonderful Canadian Broadcorping Castration”

Ah, you must have had one of those Kermit Schaefer Radio and TV Bloopers records, as I did long long ago. The same blooper collection also includes clips of a newscaster announcing a live broadcast of election returns “as late as possible” from “the county whorehouse.”

I don’t think whatever lefty “church” he must profess that has sodomy and in utero murder as their sacraments is the same one that had an Inquisition. Just saying…

I like how Sullivan mentions the Inquisition and Catholic anti-Semitism in the past, and then in the next sentence says that not allowing women to be priests, in typical emotive Sullivan language (this from a guy who thinks of himself as a sober “temperamental conservative” despite spewing invective at anyone who doesn’t appreciate Obama’s genius,) is a “scandal.” continuing opreshun!

and his whole intellectualization of his “seeing what sticks” post-first debate desperation is pathetic. we get it, he won’t ever vote for a Republican unless it’s a mushy Huntsman type who expresses contempt for the GOP base, cuz every election’s an existential crisis with theoconservatives on the march. but to show that he’s not just consumed by this one issue he has to delve into all these other topics in an attempt to prove that Romney or [insert GOP candidate here] is evil in every way shape and form. it’s pathetic.

JFKAR

I disagree, though I am thinking more of the rank-and-file middle America Democrats who perhaps aren’t especially leftist. though maybe there aren’t as many today, but these are people that can be persuaded with the right campaign.