German Shepherds and a liberal application of pepper spray, water canon, rubber bullets and police batons is what is called for here.

The question is…applied to Dean Cooper, the OWS crowd, or both?

Why don’t they just have it somewhere else?

Too bad Rev Cooper has no feck.

Werewolves!

I don’t think so, Steve. They seem to be predators irrespective of the lunar cycle.

If memory serves, the hopes of the 60s had a fair bit of self-serving self-righteousness behind all that supposed idealism. Ok, it a lot of bums mixed in.

Alot of places have “haunted houses” for Halloween filled with freaks and monsters where people can take their kids to get scared and have fun.

Why don’t these people just designate the Occupy Sewage Center as a Halloween freak show and charge admissions for tours?

Call me old-fashioned, but why is a “church” have a celebration of a pagan holiday anyway? Wouldn’t the following two days, All Saints and All Souls, be more appropriate?

Oh wait…silly me. The episcopo homosexual cult would obviously want to celebrate a pagan holiday that homosexuals celebrate.

Carry on. Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em.

I wonder how many showed up for the All Saints Day celebration the next day? last year.

I read the other day that the entire Occupy movement was/is bankrolled by George Soros. Anything to cause a little chaos!

Halloween; The Eve of All Hallows: the Feast Day of All Saints on 1 November. This is followed by the Commemoration of all the Departned or All Souls day on 2 November. These are two great Christian Feast days. How would Holt Trinity Church have commeorated these two days if they did not cancel? Would it have included all the pagan/necrophiliac(Obsessive fascination with death and corpses)/zombie/Trick or Treat or mini holdups in your home antics with no Christian input at all./

Seems to me that the “Occupiers” are, in fact, zombies.

Not quite dead, and not quite alive………..

Don — The OWSers won’t go near the treatment plant because the stink there will overpower their own. They can’t be expected to suffer like that, can they?

Not that all of the OWSers are homosexualists, but they do show themselves to be as radical or worse.

Actually, my guess is that they have no choice but to revel in Halloween because neither of the feast days which follow (All Saints and All Souls) make any accommodation for their chosen manner of life. After all, what claim to All Saints do they have when their MOL rejects the Christian life? Ditto for All Souls — what legitimacy can the day have for them since they have chosen to NOT die in the Lord?

If lie down they must may the fleas of a thousand thousand camels be their bedfellows.

Off topic: the president of the United States showed up to debate, stayed awake, and thereby won!

FW Ken, there are mixed reactions to who won. (I realize you’re probably joking.) I’d say, a draw, and not something that will change the current trajectory of the polls. That’s what Democratic consultants are saying this morning. Obama’s performance was better, but not good enough. Of course, I think he told several whoppers, but I’m a conservative observer, not sympathetic to him.

I see Defecate on Wall Street is still going strong. What a great message for this time of year!

Poor Trinity. Can’t get any breaks for trying to accommodate these bums. Looks like it all “Trick” and no “Treats” for Trinity Wall Street.

What a shame.

I guess I’m missing something–is it legal for this group to be camping on the sidewalk? Or are the NYC police just looking the other way?

“Sidewalk camp”. Is this phrase an attempt to downplay the OWS presence? This reminds me of the professors who encouraged their students to protest the Viet Nam war and to their dismay found the protesters first stop was their classrooms and university administration offices. In those days it was called a “Sit in”. Where was most of the damage done? Universities sustained bombings and fires by protesters. Liberal lip service is not “true believer” level support.

I am a little surprised that they’re still being allowed to camp out in public like this. Perhaps Trinity hasn’t complained, because it halfway agrees with their protest?

I agree with Don and LaVallette: churches should not ever celebrate Halloween. Halloween activities have thoroughly pagan roots and in its modern visage Halloween has become for many an excuse to celebrate evil forces and evil deeds.

Trinity Church is cancelling its annual Halloween celebration? Maybe something good has finally come from the occupy movement.

As if…

If Trinity follows the 1979 book, All Saints Day is a holy day, and of course it is in the 1928. There’s nothing in either for Halloween. This is Trinity going with the cultural flow — although quite a few churches of many varieties have begun having Harvest Festivals or some such thing on Oct. 31 in an attempt to keep kids off the streets for the night. No religious justification for it. As a cultural phenomenon, I don’t really have a problem with small children dressing in costumes and getting candy and maybe going to a kids’ party. In recent years adults have gone way, way overboard on Halloween, and that’s what’s making it look more and more like a pagan holiday.

I’m with Katherine. When I was small, we dressed as our patron saints for All Saints Day and came to school that way (all those little St Patricks and St Thereses and St Francis’ walking to school!). We were allowed to wear regular costumes of course on Halloween but I think public taste kept us in scary or cute costumes, not disgusting or vulgar ones. The adults just handed out candy and maybe had a costume party, that’s IT. And all we had was a pumpkin on the porch.

Today, it’s insane. Remove the Church’s feasts from the calendar and the urge to feast comes out somewhere else, it’s innate.

Off Topic:

Are you guys getting the – I am a survivor on an abortion – ads? It’s about foetuses that are still viable post-abortion. Pretty horrific. Whether or not a particular politician is for or against, that this goes on (or a one time went on) in a so-called “health-care” facility is unbelievable.

Yes, I was joking around, Katherine, sort of. In fact, the little bit of commentary I’ve heard seems to indicate that the president seemed not engaged as much as irritated at being challenged by a mere mortal.

Some of you may have seen the news that on Sept. 18 TEC “certified” that Bishop Lawrence of South Carolina had abandoned the communion. They sent the Diocese the notice on Oct. 15, between two “reconciliation” meetings between Lawrence and the national organization in which Bp. Waldo of Upper SC also took part. Duplicitous behavior, I think.

Halloween isn’t a pagan festival, unless Christians sit around with their thumbs up their butts and let pagans appropriate it from its real owners.

But wha’ do ye expect frae a bunch o’ Sassenachs an’ their Sassenach kirk? They ne’er read Bobbie Burns. They dinna ken how to celebrate Hallowe’en, nor any holiday of decent Christian folk.

If it makes you feel better, you can always imitate German Catholics and march around in the same costumes, carrying the same fiery turnip lanterns, collecting the same alms and candy, on St. Martin’s Day instead. Sigh. Some people just don’t understand that Halloween is one tiny survivor of the huge numbers of masquerade holidays in Western Christianity. Because good Christian people like to dress up, run alms drives, get free drinks from the neighbors, and have parties, astonishingly enough.