Jesus weeps.

“In my opinion, a “Catholic belief” is what followers actually “do” rather than what the hierarchy “wants” them to do. So the practice of birth control is what most Catholic women do and is, therefore, a “Catholic belief”.”

Wait a minute.

How does disobedient Catholic women turn into a “Catholic belief”?

As WOPR would say: The only winning move in the game of arguing with someone with no use for the truth is not to play.

so all sin is Catholic belief?

May be the same Ed Clarke. God rest his soul if it is.

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/ohio/obituary.aspx?n=edward-n-clarke&pid=155142292&fhid=2780

Yeah, probably. RIP, Ed.

So….when I was drinking myself into oblivion years back, I was establishing new dogma for the Roman Church?

I guess this is how child murder (abortion) became a sacrament for some folks.

Foristel? Not exactly known as a magnet for intelligent people.

Perhaps Roman Catholics should do things like the Episcopalians: Pick a small minority who practice something antithetical to the faith and turn what they “do” into a central tenet.

As Ron White says,

“You can’t fix stupid.”

“You can’t fix stupid…”

Yeah, that’s right, but you sure can avoid it like the plague!

Sorry that is a modern Anglican concept. Since there are many Catholics who use contraception and many Catholics who do not, they both cannot be Catholic “beliefs”. There is no provision in Catholicsm for “living together in tension” while holding opposite beliefs on issues of faith and morals. Catholic beliefs are what the Catholic Church teaches through its Magisterium, i.e. its teaching authority. That is what “ex cathedra” means.

Authoritarian you say? Blame Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:19: “I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

However that is not to say that the “Post Vatican II” Catholic dissenters do not have sympathy with the letter in the St Loius Post/Dispatch. They have hijacked and deliberately misinterpretated one of that Council’s document titled “Sensum Fidelium”, and they argue that what the Catholic Church MUST believe is what its followers want. They even have suggested a Consitution for the Church, built on the USA model to provide for democratic election of the hierarchy and therefore democratic control over its “legislative” process. The entire edifice of the dissident group “Voice of the Faithful” (almost defunct after only 10 years) and of the dissident positions of the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) (recently called to account by the Vatican) is based on these principles. It is very much along the lines of the ‘do what you will mentality” that is tearing Anglicanism apart.

Hmmmm….based on Johnson’s Law of Episcopal Thermodynamics, won’t this make Paul M Jeannot the next Episcopal bishop of Missouri? (even without mention in MCJ, he seems to have all the current qualifications for high office in TEC- liberal revisionist Roman Catholic who wants to take polls of small samplings of other revisionist Catholics, and use those outcomes to define the work of the Holy Spirit)

“You can’t fix stupid…”

You CAN vote it out.

Si se puede!

“You can’t fix stupid…”

You CAN vote it out.

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In 2008 Obama got voted in.