It’s a horror movie.

It’s a nightmare.

I don’t want to believe it’s true.

Lord God have mercy what evil.

The grim trade is being run from China where corrupt medical staff are said to be tipping off medical companies when babies are aborted or delivered still-born.

Corrupt? By the measure of the Chinese government that, over the courses of their lives, designed to bring them to this very point? Corrupt because the government did not get its cut?

According to the BBC report, the real issue with these capsules is that they may pose a health risk. Not anything else.

… officials said the capsules were full of bacteria and a health risk. “It was confirmed those capsules contain materials harmful to the human body, such as super bacteria. We need to take tougher measures to protect public health,” a customs official was quoted as saying by the Korea Times.

Of course. Why would anyone have any problem with this, so long as they’re certified safe?

Deus misereatur.

Absolutely disgusting! Why are we doing any business with China? Can we actually trust food products that come from there? How many health scares have we had with contaminated pet food, or human food-stuffs where the source of the problem/contamination was traced to China?

When are we going to tell international corporations that we do not care about their bottom line, we care more for our health and safety?

Dried ground babies. Dried ground babies. And authorities are worried about the physical dangers, not the spiritual danger. Are any of the old taboos still valid? Did even Moloch worshippers consume the ashes of the babies they burned?

Lord have mercy. Christ have mercy. Lord have mercy.

“Soylent Green” was set in 2022. Only 10 years off.

So what? It is just another example of the Sacrament of Reproductive Choice. Why, I’ll bet the little ‘uns up in Heaven are just delighted that they can help others. Sort like being an organ donor.

Of course, if the conservative War on Women continues, millions of suffering, ill, poor Koreans will not be able to get this life-saving medication.

On second thought, maybe anyone connected to this atrocity should burn in Hell forever. Ya think?

Right here, in the USA, discarded body parts are used to make cosmetics.
http://crunchydomesticgoddess.com/2009/05/28/babies-foreskins-used-to-make-cosmetics-is-this-ethical/

Don’t remember singling the Chinese out, John.

Chinese officials are understood to have been aware of the trade and have tried to stop the capsules being exported but thousands of packets of them have been smuggled through to South Korea.

Satanic evil has no nationality.

Nice try at moral equivalence, John, But we’re not talking body parts here, we’re talking bodies.

I realise that for some people that may be too subtle a distinction.

So is John saying because discarded foreskins are used in a really creepy way it’s ok to use aborted babies as homeopathic medicines?

Thanks for enlightening us into the depravity of the leftist mind.

So what’s satanically evil about using discarded foreskins to make cosmetics? Disgusting, maybe, but evil? I’d be much more critical about use of animals in cosmetics testing and manufacture, and even that’s a fairly complex issue.

No, John is not saying that using foreskins for cosmetics justifies using aborted fetuses for homeopathic medicines.
A depraved mind would see a connection that the writer did not imply.

Why not John? After all, the general justification of abortion is that unborn children are just extraneous biological tissue masses parasitically attached to its host.

Why not use them in any way “medical science” finds useful? It’s the logical extension of your side’s position since you deny them personhood. Your hero Obama would let children who survived an abortion simply be set aside to die.

See the results of the left’s pursuit of the right to “choose.”

http://www.priestsforlife.org/images/index.aspx

Then what was the point in posting the link, John, if you were not drawing an equivalence?

Or were you just trying to distract us from the real issue which is that philosophy of life and governance which holds that the State has the moral freedom to decide that babies have no moral right to life and existence at whatever stage the State wants to set? The issue of the philosophy held by many in this country that the State can do this because fetuses (aka human babies) are just tissue which has no moral right to life or existence?

Otherwise, why bring up the uses of discarded foreskins, John? You see we were not distracted.

Our “modern” civilization reverting to Barbarism and now eating it own children. Down with Religion! Christianity has had its day! Long live Moloch! Long Live Baal!! (The irony intended.)

If only Yeats were still with us to add on to this poem:

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert.

A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

The use of foreskins to make new skin for burn victims and diabetics with ulcers sounds like a good thing. I’m not so crazy about the cosmetic angle, and according to John’s link only very wealthy women can buy that anyhow. The point is that the foreskins do not come from dead babies. The link appears to be focused on an anti-circumcision campaign and that’s where their outrage is directed.

It’s typical of John to try to re-direct a discussion. This one which, since he posted it on this thread, makes some equivalence between using tissue taken from babies who continue to live and using micro-dried ground up dead babies as medication, is a failure.

This is so far beyond blowing up our black bears (poaching) for their gall bladders for ‘traditional Chinese medicine’ that I’m speechless. As my father used to say about certain people in East Asia: “They have no respect for human life.”

John, it would be one thing if you opposed *killing the babies*, but IIRC you don’t.

To be fair to John, he’s only pointing out that the Chinese have advanced in the biological arms race when it comes to using embryonic human material; naturally the ignorant public may be confused that if stem cells derived from human embryos are a potential cure-all, then any cells derived from human embryos will do as much. They just don’t realise the difference between disassembling an embryo at an early stage of development in order to obtain its cells, and using an aborted foetus at a later stage of development without refining the material correctly.

Foolish non-scientists! This is why organisations and institutes such as WiCell which “is a supporting organization of the University of Wisconsin-Madison, a world-leader in the area of human pluripotent stem cell research” have been set up to properly oversee the scientific and commercial development of human embryonic research. And that is why they do educational outreach and run summer camps for the general public, particularly high schools – get those keen young minds early for the next generation of scientists!

You’ll be glad to know that the University of Madison-Wisconsin doesn’t use aborted foetuses; no, no, no! They do the ethical thing – they use embryos which would only be thrown out in the trash:

“How are embryonic stem cells obtained for research?

Embryonic stem cells are obtained from excess embryos created as a result of in vitro fertilization treatments. The embryos are donated with the informed, written consent of patients who are no longer receiving treatment and who do not wish to keep the embryos.

Are embryos created for the specific purpose of scientific research?

No. In Wisconsin, the embryos that have been used for embryonic stem cell research have all been donated by patients being treated for infertility. The patients are no longer being treated and the embryos, which are frozen in storage, would otherwise be discarded.

What are the choices patients have for unused embryos?

Prior to treatment and creation of embryos for in vitro fertilization, patients are advised that it is likely there will be surplus embryos. Many embryos are created because the procedures are invasive and patients may have to undergo multiple treatments. Patients are informed of the following options for surplus embryos: 1.) indefinite storage (at the patient’s expense), 2.) donation to other infertile couples, 3.) donation for research, and 4.) discarding.”

I don’t know if any of the high school kids in their summer camps were gestated as a result of IVF treatment, but I’m sure the nice white-coated scientists running the programmes don’t make jokes about “You were a fertility clinic embryo? Well, the contents of that test-tube there which we’re using to show this class how we extract stem cells could be your brother – or it might even have been you, if your parents had changed their mind! Lucky escape, huh?”

All of which is to say, John is just reminding us that if the just wrath of an offended God smites the earth, neither China nor Korea will necessarily be the first place on the map to be hit.

I didn’t read anything ulterior in John’s posting, though have thought for a long time some of the products available are so sad.

Also have watched as predicted “collapse of society” movies of the 60′s and 70′s become more true all the time.

Soylent Green spoke a lot of truths about our trajectory as a nation/world though was science fiction at the time. If you haven’t seen it, you should.

After all, what really is in “pink slime” anyway? Just sayin…..

According to the news articles, pink slime is tiny bits of beef which are mechanically separated from the bone and then added to ground beef. The likelihood of its being shredded people is zero, in my opinion, although I don’t necessarily believe news reports all the time.

I dunno how people can go all political about this story. This is Charles Manson. This is Josef Mengele. This is Inca child sacrifices. This is Silence of the Lambs. But real. Tangible evil.

I heard today on the noon news that the main producer of ‘pink slime’ has closed plants in three states, putting X number of people out of work. That’s too bad for the people who worked there, but I guess the public just doesn’t want to buy the product.

Michael D,

I’ve long thought that certain ‘climate change scientists’ were really the ones to take the blame for the modern Capacocha children. Saw a special on this a few years ago. The sacrifices continue.

Katherine,

I was being facetious with my question. However, I don’t want pink slime in my food no matter where I get it from. I stopped eating at McD’s because of it. A couple of months ago I tried a scary experiment: Take a McD or Burger King burger and leave it out on a plate. For a while. Weeks. The food does not deteriorate.

From Wiki:

Pink slime, also known as lean finely textured beef (LFTB) and boneless lean beef trimmings (BLBT), is a beef-based food additive that may be added to ground beef and beef-based processed meats as an inexpensive filler.[4][5] It consists of finely ground beef scraps, sinew, fat, and connective tissue which have been mechanically removed in a heated centrifuge at 100°F (38°C) from the fat into liquid fat and a protein paste. The recovered material is then processed, heated, and treated with ammonia gas or citric acid to kill E. coli, salmonella, and other bacteria. It is finely ground, compressed into blocks, and flash frozen for use as an additive to beef products. The term pink slime was coined in 2002 by Gerald Zirnstein, who at that time was a microbiologist for the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) Food Safety and Inspection Service, but some state officials have objected to the nickname, saying that “lean, finely textured beef is the proper name.”

In the United States, the additive itself cannot legally be sold directly to consumers, but can constitute up to 15% of ground beef without additional labeling, and can also be added to other meat products such as beef-based processed meats. Prior to the invention of the disinfection process, beef scraps could only be sold as pet food or as an ingredient for cooking oil.

How many of us didn’t even know that? Do we even know what’s in a lot of products we use? No. I try not to think about hearing what the disposed abortions were being used in. Always made me think that the whole reason for the push for them is for the “after-products”. Follow the money.

Lakeland Two, eeeew. I’ve been buying premium ground beef to avoid the slime. I will continue.

Organ donation is a good thing, including donating skin for medical purposes, if that’s possible. The key is consent, and babies can’t give consent, whether they are born or unborn.

JUST DESSERTS

Oh haby, what a sweet title.

JUST DESSERTS

Oh baby, what a sweet title.

(Actually, this is beyond a decadent abomination).

” …watch movies that exalt rather than debase, listen to Bach, Beethoven, Mozart and other apotheoses of musical greatness, reconnect as best I can with my family …”
Just as an aside, Chris — why are you waiting for an asteroid?

“Soylent Green spoke a lot of truths about our trajectory as a nation/world though was science fiction at the time. If you haven’t seen it, you should.”

I never did like that movie because I thought it was part of the “population bomb” propaganda of the ’60s and ’70s. Wasn’t Soylent Green invented, according to the movie, because the earth had become so overpopulated that there was not enough food to go around, and no land left to grow crops on? And wasn’t it supposed to be a glimpse of the awful future we faced if we didn’t get on the birth control bandwagon and stop having so many babies?

Elaine S. – so much more than that. But world population continues to rise. Where we live in the Sunshine State, we have lots of homeless – sleeping in wooded, undeveloped lots rather than doorways.

But look at what people will pay for food, organic food, etc. The prices keep going up. I can see $200 bucks for a steak dinner with veggies…especially with radiation damage from Japan.

Take the scene where Edward G. Robinson turns himself in for recycling. How long will we have room for new cemetaries?

I used to hope that here in the US we had the dream of what we can be more than what’s in it for me and that those movies were indeed fiction and pessimistic at that. I don’t any more. But after having read news accounts of the same awful behaviors predicted in those type of movies happening in our world and even our country…take it for what it’s worth. I’m sure I could find lots of faults, etc., in any of those movies.