1 KINGS 18:21
Saturday, February 28th, 2009 | Uncategorized
And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him.
Doug LeBlanc wonders why the story of the Episcopal Organization’s putative Buddhist bishop hasn’t received more media coverage than it has. Lord knows, Stand Firm has done its best to keep this story on the Anglican front burner.
I think there are two reasons why the Kevin Thew Forrester election hasn’t gained any traction. The minor reason revolves around a theory I floated at the other site to the effect that the Episcopal Organization is what the media wishes that the Roman Catholic Church, an actual Christian church with real worldwide influence, would become so that anything which might reflect badly on TEO will inevitably be downplayed. The major reason is much simpler.
Basically, this story is not news. Had a Roman Catholic bishop or cardinal, an Orthodox bishop or a prominent Southern Baptist or Pentecostal leader been found to be an ordained Buddhist, the resulting uproar would have spread around the world.
Let an Episcopalian do it, though, and the inevitable reaction is that “WAH, WAH, WAH, WAH, WAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!” sound running through your head along with chuckling, shaking your head and exclaiming, “Ah, those crazy Episcopalians are at it again!”
Sort of what happens when you morph from a Christian church into a sad joke.
9 Comments to 1 KINGS 18:21
How sad and how true. As someone said at Stand Firm: Does the word doughnut mean anything if you include bagels and English muffins? How we expect Christian to mean anything if you include Islam and Buddhism? What silly, silly people.
March 1, 2009
Yep. Definitely a “dog bites man” story. Or, better: “cat sheds on sofa,” since we are talking about something everybody expected to see.
Another excerpt from Kings which relates to ordination: I Kings 13:33-34: “Even after this [the man of God acceding to corrupting blandishments contrary to God's command] Jeroboam did not change his evil ways, but once more appointed priests for the high places from all sorts of people. Anyone who wanted to become a priest he consecrated for the high places. This was the sin of the house of Jeroboam that led to its downfall and to its destruction from the face of the earth.”
Chris:
After I read this posting this morning, I came across this interview, which has a quote that apropos for here:
[Mike Aquilina]: You say that Christianity succeeded in part because of its high moral standards. Today, however, many churches are lowering the bar to make religion more popular. How would you analyze their efforts?
[Rodney Stark]: They’re death wishes. People value religion on the basis of cost, and they don’t value the cheapest ones the most. Religions that ask nothing get nothing. You’ve got a choice: you can be a church or a country club. If you’re going to be a church, you’d better offer religion on Sunday. If you’re not, you’d better build a golf course, because you’re not going to get away with being a country club with no golf course. That’s what happened to the Episcopalians, Methodists, Congregationalists, Unitarians and, indeed, to some sectors of Catholicism.
Here’s a better theory: Bishop Pike merited a lot of news coverage over his apostasy. I am sure that Bishop Swing got reams of press coverage over his syncretism. It is definite that John Shelby Spong got a lot of column inches over his 12 Theses and other anti-Christian works.
With all of that, the general public already knows that there are plenty of Episcopal bishops who are not Christian. The press knows it too. So this latest election is not news at all, except for the ostriches still left in the Episcopal Church.
March 1, 2009
PMcGrath, thanks for the link. That was educational and inspiring.
March 1, 2009
Chris, if you add to your quote the end of verse 21
“And the People said nothing” (NIV) then it is indeed indicative of your comments above. How our Lord must shake his head in bewilderment!
Doug LeBlanc wonders why the story of the Episcopal Organization’s putative Buddhist bishop hasn’t received more media coverage than it has.
As Joseph Bottum has explained, although the mainline Protestant churches still have lots of members, no-one has taken these institutions seriously in about 35 years. (Bush and Obama don’t care what the heads of the United Methodist Church and United Church of Christ think of government policy.) So one of their ministers is a loon. That’s not news.
March 2, 2009
Allen,
In regards to those ostriches:
“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig” – Robert Heinlein
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