Is the moslem Episcopal priestess going to transfer?

From this point on, anyone who stays with this pagan cult deserves everything they get.

It was a fait accompli. He was the only candidate.

As someone said on a previous thread… it’s the end of satire.

Perhaps an emergency primates meeting will be convened, and it will solemnly warn TEC that if this guy’s consecration proceeds, it will tear…

No, you’re right. Satire is over.

Master Bisho was drawing water and pouring it back into the well. An acolyte approached and waited silently with his bamboo cup.

“Hello brother!” Bisho said “Are you waiting for the water?”

“No master,” the acolyte replied, “The water is waiting for me, for master Yesho has said that water is alive and we are dead until we drink it.”

“But when you drink,” Bisho replied, “your thirst is gone and the water no long sparkles in the bamboo cup.”

“So true meditation,” said the acolyte, “is the sound of water to a thirsty man.”

“True meditation,” said Bisho, “Is to sit with closed eyes while sunlight sparkles off living water,” and he took the bamboo cup and threw it into the well.

No, you’re right. Satire is over.

(That was my attempt at satire.)

I think there’s something fishy here, Christopher. Not only was this man the only candidate, he actually drew up the job description that the committee used to ‘select’ the candidate(s) – and then he only got “88 percent of delegate votes and 91 percent of congregational votes” instead of 100% each?

Who are the right-wing conspirators hiding in Northern Michigan who attempted to foil the march of progress? Is the Presiding Bishop aware of this heinous example of yet more internal treachery?

The irony here, of course, is that if the man is anyway faithful to his Buddhist lay-vows, he’ll be too doctrinaire for TEC. If, on the other hand, he’s as slapdash about Buddhism as about Christianity… he’ll fit right in

Now all we need is an atheist Anglican bishop.

…No, wait…it’s been done. They are already legion.

Actually the reincarnated fellow from Tibet, the Dalai Lama, is rather more strict about things than most ECUSA lay or clergy. I wonder if he’d read him out for his lax church? Bad karma, you know?

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa! (Wiping tears from eyes, sniffle, sniffle) Oh, my, whew! A Buddhist Christian Bishop! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa! Whew! (Wiping more tears from eyes) That is simply too funny! You’ve outdone yourself this time, Mr. Johnson! Great humor! But, a word of caution. I know, from this site, that you are, shall we say, “dissatisfied” with the TEc, and outrageous humor is always a welcome thing. However, you probably should stick to the truth to avoid criticism. I mean, yeah, the very idea of a Buddhist Christian bishop produces mirth, but what moron in their right mind is going to actually believe that this is true? I mean, funny, yeah, but true? Anyway, my sides still hurt from laughing. A “Buddhist Christian bishop!” HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa! You sure know how to spin ‘em, Mr. Johnson! What’s next? – “Our Father, OMMMMM, who art in heaven, OMMMMM, hallowed by Thy name, OMMMMMM, etc. HaHaHaHaHaHa!!

I suppose those who are still interested can see why the King James Version and the 1928 BCP had to go in TEC. “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved.” “No man cometh to the Father, but by me.” “He who sees me, hath seen the Father.” How much more clear does Jesus need to be? He and His followers are not walking down he road beside heretics, Muslims, or Buddhists. If TEC consecrates this man a bishop, they become a heretical sect, and are no longer even pretendng to be orthodox Christians.

Any news on Christian Buddhist bonzes or lamas? I’m just curious to see if Western Buddhist traditions are moving in this direction – I rather imagine Eastern traditions would frown upon this kind of carry-on (though who knows? It could be the equivalent of being a Shintoist or Taoist and Buddhist).

Yet another cordless bungee jump into the abyss of apostasy for TEC. There’s really no way to satirize these heretics.

OK, so that comment that I wrote above was, like, my imitation of a Zen Koan, eh? And it was, like, meant to critique the very idea of a Buddhist bishop (“bisho” get it?) because like the Buddhists just want to empty themselves, eh, and Jesus (“Yesho” get it?) wants to fill us….

Eh?

All I hear is, like, the sound of one hand clapping…

This is hilarious. How can it not be funny?

Mazal tov.

It is impossible to satirize farce.

But seriously, I think we need to start looking at this as part of a greater plan.

It was said that one of the benefits of the war in Iraq was that it acted as a magnet for jihadists world wide who felt compelled to come fight the great Satan there, right where we wanted them.

Maybe TEC has been designed by God to act as a sponge for all liberal nutjobs, leaving the rest of the population composed of proportionally more serious religuous thinkers.

No. seriously.

The Pilgrim: “From this point on, anyone who stays with this pagan cult deserves everything they get.”

Sarah Hey: “I use the phrase “Strategically-Minded” deliberately, for that’s what I am. I’m a conservative Episcopalian, staying in TEC, and interested in doing more than just sitting around and saying “ain’t it awful.”

Here’s my question.

If there were to be a day-long [no more than six hours, from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.] gathering/meeting of like-minded conservative Episcopalians who are staying in The Episcoapl Church for the forseeable future, and who are interested in discussion, sharing of issues and struggles and solutions, and fellowship together, would you be interested in attending such a gathering?”

Yes, essentially it means what you think: these snotty illiberal left-liberals militantly believe in… not much except political correctness (there have been stone-atheist Anglican clergy since the ‘Enlightenment’; the difference is they don’t give lip service to orthodoxy any more – not since Pike). That said, to be fair Buddhism isn’t necessarily a religion unlike the Sunni Islam the Revd Ann Redding joined. There’s some compatibility but I understand ultimately the beliefs are mutually exclusive as I’m sure a Tibetan (the Tibetan brand of Buddhism is a religion) would tell some liberal Protestant playing with his tradition.

Buddhist priest? Why not, rhymes with Judas priest.

This whole thing is just silly. Of course the consents will come in. After all, the Diocese elected him in proper canonical form. What is not to consent to?

He’s abandoned communion in a very literal sense. Ms. Schori, if she has any shread of consistency about her canonical interpretations, should depose this man for abandoning communion like she did +Iker and others.

After all, the Diocese elected him in proper canonical form.

Which of course is inviolable… unless, as was the case with the old but still Episcopal standing committee in San Joaquin, somebody’s against gay weddings, in which case Dr Schori uses universal and immediate jurisdiction, a concept once largely foreign to Episcopalians.

Liberals are funny when they do high-church.

“This whole thing is just silly. Of course the consents will come in. After all, the Diocese elected him in proper canonical form.”

OK, I know you were just being sarcastic, but just in case someone not familiar with what actually happened reads this thread.

Actually, no, the diocese did not follow either its own canons or the national church canons. The candidate devised his own procedure, he and his “core team” friends dominated the nominating process, the other invited candidates “voluntarily withdrew” and he stood for election alone. Just what part of that is proper canonical form?
And let us not forget that the “Episcopal Ministry Discernment Team” did much more than pick a candidate, they redefined the office of bishop. The “Episcopal Ministry Support Team” divides the office and duties among 12 people (2% of the ASA of the diocese). Most of whom were (big surprise) members of the Episcopal Ministry Discernment Team.

TUAD, I suspect I’m to blame for Sarah Hey closing the comments on this: “If there were to be a day-long … gathering/meeting of [those self-perceived "comparatively less liberal"] who are staying in The Episcoapl Church …?”

My immediate comment was to label the event along this line:

“Enconium to the Glorious River in Egypt”

It shan’t surprise you that my comment lasted only a few minutes.

“TUAD, I suspect I’m to blame for Sarah Hey closing the comments on this…”

Alfonso! You naughty little boy, you! How dare you point out that the Empress Sarah Hey has no clothes on?! All the other Institutionalists believe she has clothes on, why can’t you? Don’t you like what you see?

The abomination of desolation is alive and walking the earth….this bishop is no bishop and no christian either… he has excomunicated himself by his own actions. This is not farce but heresy, and he may lead many astray. I shall pray for this man that his eyes be opened and that he comes to know Jesus as the only way to the Father.