“Let’s tweet, text, IM, Facebook, fax, phone and e-mail our way”….to and through the gates of hell. Follow me ladies…

if one would doubt the hold of Satan over the Episcopal “church,” one needs only regard Kaeton, Ragsdale and Russell.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2012/02/six-things-to-know-about-the-hhs-mandate/

Since you bring up the Current Unpleasantness, let me recommend the above as a response to the stupidity blathered about by the likes of Kaeton. She didn’t actually perpetuate all these lies, but that’s because she was too busy declaiming on the evils of men.

Reading down through the comments, you’ll find a fairly complete review of the issue, with some interesting links. One link goes to a fairly convincing argument that the HHS rules are not the president’s doing, but Sibelius getting payback on the bishops for restricting her from Communion and resisting her while she was governor, possibly costing her the vice-presidency. Interesting stuff.

As to Kaeton, her coven is dying. She has no meaning but to tweet and fax.

“…how women and men of quality can fight back for equality…”

(shudder)

This phrase reveals the state of our nation due to abortion – our corporate humanity since Roe vs Wade has become so damaged by abortion, infanticide, uncommitted, emotionless promiscuity, euthanasia, that we are without conscience, and cannot feel empathy or affection, because of the hardness and grotesqueness of our hearts and thoughts.

Abortion has not reduced the abuse of unwanted children as the promoters had hoped/promised. Since 1973, child abuse has risen 600%. Child-trafficking has risen. Child pornography is epidemic, even among the clergy.

Reminds me of the description of priest child abusers by Archbishop Diarmuid Martin of Ireland, who said of the many abusers he had interviewed, only two had any sense of responsibility for the horrific psychological harm they had done to the children they had misused for their own gratification. Most of these pedophiles could no longer feel empathy or guilt. They were shackled to the millstones of their own hard hearts. This is consistent with other stories of abusers in schools, sports, neighborhoods, homes.

Our sin harms us first, then ripples out from there….

Cmon people. Kaeton is only doing her job. She is the TEC rep on the board of directors for the RCRC. Your TEC pledge dollars at work.
http://episcopaldigitalnetwork.com/ens/2012/01/17/elizabeth-kaeton-elected-to-the-national-board-of-the-religious-coalition-for-reproductive-choice/

I remember a time, not that long ago actually, when the Episcopal News Service would not have been the mouthpiece for this kind of nonsense. Kaeton and her klan would have had to use Louie’s listserv to spew. It really shows who has the run of the place now. Of course, the whole idea of this knucklehead urging “women of faith” to join her in promoting abortion is both ludicrous and diabolical.

Even in this country about half of those abortion victims are female, so the “war against women” line isn’t too convincing.

FW Ken, I’m not one of those whose imagination sees Obama in the Oval Office scheming daily against religious belief. But this is his administration. He has the ability to overrule Sebelius. He cannot escape the responsibility.

“the Roman Catholic Church”

Thank you, thank you. Please hold the applause. I am so honored to be a part of the monkey wrench cogging up the Kaeton machines.

Excellent analysis of the background to the current HHS debacle. If there is a better place for this, Mr. Jounson, please feel free.
http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/kathleen-sebelius-versus-bishops/

Katherine, I agree that Pres. Obama has the final responsibility for his administration, but it some of this started up after Sibelius came into her position, if this post is correct.

http://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/01/29/kathleen-sebelius-versus-bishops/

Whitestone – victim empathy is a crucial aspect of working with sex offenders. Even when they say the words, you have to discern their level of sincerity and the degree to which their sincerity will impact their behavior.

They may be the adolescent boys of the 21st Century, but, unfortunately, they are very effective in being heard and influencing decisions. Witness the way the Komen foundation caved in to the political pressure that politically savvy Planned parenthood managed to bring to bear on them.

Kaeton is just being her usual, sweet self.

No surpise from this thing, she is truly debased and shameless. But somehow I still managed to be shocked that ENS would publish this screed. Why? Why am I surprised? Then to see 10 out of 11 coments cheering her on. I really find this revolting.

CJ! Pilgrim is stealing my thunder!

“So, pick up your smart phones, ladies, and take up your fax machines, turn on your laptops and fire up the Internet. Let’s tweet, text, IM, Facebook, fax, phone and e-mail our way to justice and equality.”

Oh, sweetie, you read my mind! It was only yesterday that I was on my phone to my congressman (being a Californian, I have no living Senators) to express my sentiments. Not yours, dearie. Mine.

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“…women and men of quality” is just plain creepy. Whatever else, beyond the “blessing” of abortion, that this crowd does not yet advocate, is left un-advocated in many cases only because they cannot get away with it. Yet…

Keaton just being hysterical: it is all about the womb!!!

Well, I clicked on the link and left a comment under my sock-puppet alias on Liz’s site. I deliberately phrased it as non-confrontationally as possible and never even mentioned religion, only the right of a donor to cease donation.

I await either deletion before posting or an attack as a traitor to my gender for not swooning before the wonderfulness that is Planned Parenthood.

“The reproductive rights of women are under sharp attack from the religious and political forces of the evangelical right, the Roman Catholic Church, and the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party.”

Well, I am a Republican (though not of the American variety) and I do enjoy a nice cup of tea, plus I am Roman Catholic. Yes, she’s got me dead to rights!

All this talk about war and attack and forces of the Roman Catholic Church (and thanks for the capital “C” in Church, Lizzie!) brought the imagery of Venantius Fortunatus’s hymn irresistably to mind (the banners of an army marching forth flying in the wind):

Vexilla Regis prodeunt;
fulget Crucis mysterium,
quo carne carnis conditor
suspensus est patibulo.

(The banners of the king issue forth,
the mystery of the cross does gleam,
where the creator of flesh, in the flesh,
by the cross-bar is hung)

Paula, the Episcopal Bishop of California isn’t too happy with us, either (link courtesy of T:19).

Oh, we’re terrible people altogether, and so are those “disaffected Episcopal priests and the lay people who follow them” into the “national refuge” and “ersatz diocese for the unhappy” we (or rather, “the Roman Catholic central authority”) expended “a kind of low-level creativity on making”.

See how cheap we are? We couldn’t even muster up some high level creativity! And poor Bishop Andrus had to expend his time and precious bodily fluids energy on taking us to task! “I debated with myself as to whether a response to this latest egregious action by the Roman Catholic central authority was worth the energy” but luckily for us, he’s in good with the Archbishop of San Francisco: “I value my partnership with the Roman Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco on forwarding the Millennium Development Goals, to cite one prominent example of our work together”.

Phew! At least we’ve redeemed ourselves somewhat in the eyes of “the amazing laypeople, deacons, priests, and bishops of The Episcopal Church who have courageously held to a course that follows that faintly shining tract through time” by that partnership – er, let’s just hope nobody shows Bishop Andrus that pastoral letter by Archbishop Niederauer that refuses reproductive health rights and justice to women, mmkay?

Re: the above, does anyone know the state of play in California? If the bishop gives the majority of an article to bashing the Ordinariate and only one defensive paragraph about “Another comment about how we spend our energy: there has been quite a lot of debate within The Episcopal Church about our energy budget, meaning, do we work on HIV/AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa or do we promote the recognition of the rights and dignity of women and LGBT people”, then I do have to wonder what’s going on there.

If he was supposed to be defending/promoting the diocese’s work on poverty, especially in Africa, and how that fits in with the LGBT stuff, then why go on about the Evil Vatican Evil Ordinariate of Evil Ex-Episcopalians?

I could speculate, but since I don’t know nuthin’, is there any better-informed person out there to tell me why the shoe is pinching the good bishop?

That link contains a lot of speculation about Sibelius’s motives. I don’t know if she’s implemented these rules out of spite, or simply out of the liberal insistence that women have a fundamental “right” not to conceive or bear children and that the “right” is to be enforced by any means necessary. Remember, Pelosi said we needed to pass the bill to find out what’s in it. And this is what’s in it: the ability of an unelected government official to make law regarding the most intimate aspects of life. This was a predictable consequence.

The “Affordable Care Act” must be repealed in its entirety.

The “Affordable Care Act” must be repealed in its entirety.

Yes, and the opportunity to do so is slipping away day by day. If it has not already.

I’m a guy, and according to many have no say in this debate, unless it is in support of killing children.

Women have a choice! They make it every time they have sex. They choose to expose themselves to the possibility of getting pregnant by their actions.

I taught in urban schools and know that 95% of the kids I taught were never in a church, did not know the 10 commandments and thought the Golden Rule was: “He who has the most bling rulz!” To these children sex was an amusement and birth control an inconvenant option. Their grandmother could watch the baby while they got on with their partying lives.

The point is, they had no moral or ethical education growing up. They had no knowledge of the long term consequences, nor did they care.

There are many other factors that weigh in on this issue and as you move up the socio-economic scale they issues change, somewhat.

Bottom line, for me at least (and I am well beyond my baby-daddy years) there is a choice: Get Preggers or not. The very best kids are curious (horny) and will experiment… they must understand the consequences… and be ready to pay the piper.

Oh, yea… Kaeton is a moron studying to be an idiot.

I think the best feedback for Lizzie is “Get me a Bierbitzch.”

http://www.bierbitzch.com

I’m always pleased to find people in the church who believe that all drugs should be legalized and euthanasia legalized and the sale of dynamite, arsenic, and cyanide legalized.

That is the “It’s my body” argument, isn’t it?

What makes her qualified to comment on parenthood, planned or not? Or on reproduction for that matter?

Like Gene Robinson, she’s got children from her marriage before she decided to be lesbian.

I didn’t realize that she was on meds in the first place…

May God get through her own ego… and ours… that we all may follow Him the way He wants us to.