ARE YOU AN EPISCOPALIAN?

Sunday, September 28th, 2008 | Uncategorized

(1) The coworker in the cubicle to your left is a devout Catholic. You’ve often seen him reading from a breviary, a book of hours, the works of Benedict XVIAmy Welborn, what’s-his-face out there in Seattle or some other devotional work. More than once, you’ve seen him silently praying a rosary. He invites you to church with him a lot.
 
The coworker in the cubicle to your right is an equally-devout Southern Baptist. She has a King James Bible on her desk which she reads whenever she has a few spare moments.
 
You see her pray at her desk pretty much every day. She’s constantly asking after your spiritual health, she regularly uses terms like “the Lord” and her standard reaction to any good news is “Praise God!” She also invites you to church with her all the time.
 
Your Catholic and Baptist coworkers sometimes get into good-natured discussions about theology but both genuinely like and respect one another. Your attitude toward both can best be described as:
 
(A) Genuine admiration for two people who are serious about their faith, are not afraid to publicly show it and can defend their faith without antagonizing someone.

(B) Disgust since religion is a private matter and should be kept private.

(C) Bemused contempt since neither is an Episcopalian.

(2) You are a highly-educated Episcopal minister of a conservative bent. The Presiding Bishop has just declared a conservative bishop deposed without trial or vote in the House of Bishops, fired his Diocesan Standing Committee and appointed a new bishop and Standing Committee to replace them, violating entire pages of Episcopal canons. Your bishop enthusiastically supports the Presiding Bishop’s actions. The proper response to all this is:

(A) Silence since you are required to respect those set in authority over you.

(B) Outrage and an immediate announcement that you’ll have the “deposed” bishop into your parish as soon as possible regardless of what your own bishop thinks about it and even if you have to pay for the deposed bishop’s plane ticket out of your own pocket.

(C) A Scholarly Paper of Death posted on the Anglican Communion Institute web site setting out in long and laborious detail why the Presiding Bishop’s actions were both wrong and contrary to all norms of catholic Christianity.

(3) You are the Archbishop of Canterbury. A province of the Anglican Communion has just deposed a conservative bishop contrary to its own canons which promises to add even more fuel to the Anglican controversy fire. Your next public statement should:

(A) Declare that the province’s action was “unhelpful.”

(B) Denounce the province’s action in the strongest possible terms, tell the world that the deposed bishop is still an Anglican in good standing and announce that the offending province would not receive any invitations to any Anglican meetings for the foreseeable future.

(C) Consist of strident comments to the press on a subject about which you know nothing.

(4) Anglicanism’s traditional “three-cornered stool” consists of:

(A) Scripture, tradition and reason

(B) Ten-year-old Glenmorangie, twelve-year-old Glenmorangie and eighteen-year-old Glenmorangie.

(C) Katharine, Jefferts and Schori.

(5) Whenever you eat the bread of Holy Communion:

(A) You are reminded of Christ’s broken body on the Cross for the sins of the world.

(B) You are reminded of your own sins.

(C) You wish somebody on the Altar Guild would at least season this cardboard before they made you choke it down.

(6) Ideally, Anglican sermons should:

(A) Be no longer than ten minutes.

(B) Deal with subjects that interest you.

(C) Be optional.

(7) The wine of Holy Communion:

(A) Reminds us all of the blood shed by Christ on the Cross for our sins.

(B) Ought to be given to all the people all the time, not like the Catholics do it.

(C) Had better be something good or you’re going to raise a ruckus with the Altar Guild first thing Monday morning.

(8) African Anglican bishops like Peter Akinola, Henry Orombi and Emmanuel Kolini are:

(A) Great servants of God doing a job the difficulty of which you can’t even begin to imagine.

(B) Servants of God with whom you strongly disagree but servants of God nonetheless.

(C) Particularly evil bigots who shouldn’t be listened to by anyone.

(9) The Roman Catholic Church is:

(A) Part of the body of Christ.

(B) A reactionary institution that would subvert the world to its power-mad designs.

(C) An institution that’s neither here nor there as far as you’re concerned as long as it continues to make your Guatemalan maid happy.

(10) Conservative Protestants like the Southern Baptists and the Pentecostals are:

(A) Part of the Body of Christ.

(B) Handy institutions with which to entertain the mentally retarded.

(C) As cogent an argument as can possibly be conceived against universal suffrage.

The answer to every question, of course, is C.

32 Comments to ARE YOU AN EPISCOPALIAN?

FW Ken
September 28, 2008

Funny, Christopher (“Editor” or “Admin”, as alternatives :-) )

Although, not to be picky, but Catholics now receive the Cup at Communion.

Paula Loughlin
September 28, 2008

The Catholic Church is …”B) A reactionary institution that would subvert the world to its power-mad designs.”

People, people what did we discuss about memoing me with important updates? Now I have to get my power suit back from the cleaners and I know dang well it won’t be ready.

Minions just never listen.

dwstroudmd
September 28, 2008

But the three Glenmorangie were an excellent option!

UinenMaia
September 28, 2008

“Ideally, Anglican sermons should:

(A) Be no longer than ten minutes.

(B) Deal with subjects that interest you.

(C) Be optional.”

Zing! The Lutherans (of the ELCA flavor) are hurtling along right behind their liberal Episcopal sistern/brethern/othern, but the ELCA answer would be (D) All of the Above.

Thanks for a good laugh and a great site (both the former and this newer format).

The Little Myrmidon
September 28, 2008

Errr, but only the 18 year old Glenmorangie was over the age of consent.

Joe Jackson
September 28, 2008

Chris, way off topic but, are you the “Christopher Johnson” whose name I saw on a Post-Dispatch comment thread lamenting the Rams latest debacle?

jimmy
September 28, 2008

FW Ken:

Yeah, but they make YOU hold it! None of this “help us tilt it, but we’ll take it back if you take two swallows” malarkey…

Fuinseoig
September 28, 2008

Paula – updates? What updates? That’s been the plan all along for the past two thousand years! :-)

Daniel Muller
September 28, 2008

Maybe everyone else has already heard this one, but I just received some spam, er, my copy of “An Organist’s Dictionary,” which includes the following entry:

Churches Together
A body which vainly tries to get Baptists and Catholics to talk to each other, to get the Free Presbyterians to talk to anyone, and to get Anglicans to talk to other Anglicans.

Donna B. Goode
September 28, 2008

ROFL!!! Your comic genius is vastly underappreciated!

Paula Loughlin
September 28, 2008

Fuinseoig. Are you sure? Cause I did find some scribbles about pillaging that I took at the last Vatican Seminar and I have the email on the Lutheran Cookbook fundraiser. But nothing about subversion.

Oh wait, I goofed and put it as # 65 on the list. I’ll bump it to the top. I have no idea why “give birth to 16 babies by next week is number #`1″ Hubby is such a kidder.

saint
September 29, 2008

The short version: Do you wear lederhosen and have an oven mitt on your head?

a. Yes b. No.

Jeff in VA
September 29, 2008

I dunno. Some of the “B” options were pretty viable candidates too.

Floridian
September 29, 2008

Speaking of organists, here’s a comment I saw at StandFirm re the Catholic Church:
” have no experience with Orthodox Churches, so I can’t say. But I do
“moonlight” as an organist in local RCCs on Saturday evenings sometimes.
They are not exempt from the same problems that exist in the Anglican
Communion. I’ve heard sermons in the RCC that “Jesus really didn’t raise
from the dead – its just a parable”, that “Jesus didn’t really say that -
St. Matthew just made that up”, etc. This is not all Roman Catholic priests
and bishops any more than all priests & bishops in the Anglican Communion
don’t believe the gospel. But for those in TEC who are concerned about
orthodoxy, the RCC is not a safe haven in all cases. It depends upon the
parish and who the priest happens to be, who is Bishop is, etc.”

This was on the thread about RC Bishop Soto’s ‘standing firm’ talk at the GBLT Catholic org.

Looks like liberal unbelief, infection, subversion and power politicking goes on under the radar in the RC, along with homosexuality in priesthood (and other religious, monks and nuns?)

Church is supposed to be a safe nurturing welcoming place, along with the Family and the Womb…but evil one has made it dangerous and distorted our inclinations and definitions of Love, Truth and Life…only reunion with Him who IS The Way (of Love), The Truth and The Life can make them safe places again.

Floridian
September 29, 2008

sorry for the formatting – I couldn’t see the quote wouldn’t ‘wrap’.

The Little Myrmidon
September 29, 2008

So, meanwhile, back at the ranch, Chris (or “Editor” or “Admin” etc…) when do we get to add cute little avaters in those blank person blocks up above? Eh? When?

The Editor
September 29, 2008

Joe,

Yup.

TLM,

As soon as I figure out how to do it, I’ll let you know. :-)

Paula Loughlin
September 29, 2008

Floridian, the best places to look for heretical teachings in the Catholic Church is not the Parish pulpits. I mean at some point these clowns might actually come to the attention of their Bishop and get a shepherds crook upside the head.

No if you want to engage in the sport of
“spot the heretic” a fave amongst us Catholics by the way. You must check out some of the religious orders. And it should come as no surprise the orders of les dames are the most obvious. You think the whole blathering about feminist spiritually only infected Protestant churches? Au contraire, why we have moon bats and birkenstock klatches which would have KJS and SR and LK drooling with envy.

What to do about these deluded ladies is a puzzle. Unfortunately the idea of Vatican shock troops has been vetoed. Though the image of sturdy Militia Immaculataes lobbing grenades into the
“exploring the feminine divine through Sumerian dance” session does warm the chilled toes of this gal.

So yes we Catholics know about these bad priests. How could we not. Even without the constant reminders, we can after all read. But we do not trust in princes temporal or otherwise. We trust in Christ’s promise. We also trust that slowly but surely such insults to the Body of Christ (priests who preach heresy, etc. religious orders who disgrace the name Catholic ) will be dealt with.

We just don’t make a bowl of popcorn to eat while we watch, knowing the kernels will be distant memories by the time it happens. But it is on God’s time table not mine. Yet even so I do trust Him to give our Bishops and Pope the grace to get the job done. We also know that no matter what such men and women blather. It does not change the teachings of the Church. There will never be a vote that says “Jesus was a good man and a very insightful teacher who can show us one of the many ways to the Divine”.

The wind will blow away the chaff, I just want to be sure I am standing with the wheat when that happens.

Sodbuster
September 29, 2008

Is the reason you aren’t posting on political events in your area due to fear of arrest by the chief of the Sturmabteilung in St. Louis County?

Sodbuster
September 29, 2008

It is a good thing then, that the Good Shepherd knows His sheep, even though we are not all of one fold, as He told us.

Christopher Johnson
September 29, 2008

Sodbuster,

No. I just haven’t particularly wanted to. All that’s eventually going bite McCullough in the ass. I thought he had more class than that.

Floridian
September 29, 2008

Bless you, Paula, You are way cool…and way honest!

I’ll never forget your term ‘p–s poor catechism’ for the Christian education quality in local Catholic churches.

Too bad we Christians, our churches and leaders aren’t as good in practice on the ground as on paper…or on earth as it is in heaven.

That’s cause it requires crucifixion and sacrifice and it hurts to go against the grain, the flesh, the world and sometimes the devil.

Dying daily, crucifying the flesh is an excrutiatingly tough and costly assignment!

Floridian
September 29, 2008

Bishop Iker has just posted (on SFIF and Virtue) 10 reasons for orthodox to realign.

NOW.

Fuinseoig
September 29, 2008

Paula, obviously some pages were left out of your folder at the Induction Seminar and Mass Brainwashing before you were fitted with the Vatican Mind-Control Chip.

Tsk! Extra mortifications for that acoylte, I tell you! :-)

FW Ken
September 29, 2008

What Paula said… although I would include the RCIA process in the heresy-making frency. Those programs are too often run by those renegade nuns – or, as we say, bitter ex-nuns with dowdy clothes and bad hairdos. Not always “ex” nuns, of course.

I must say I have never heard blatant heresy from the pulpit, at least in the sermon, and I know, for a fact, that one of my pastors held heretical opinions he would discuss in private. As Paula noted, if they get too far out there, they risk a whack from a crozier. However, with parish boundaries generally not enforced, it’s easier to find a more amenable congregation than complain to the bishop, so perhaps this has freed heretic priests up to be more blatant.

Paula Loughlin
September 29, 2008

Bless you too, Floridian. I praise God for people who are unashamed to preach Christ crucified. No matter what church they attend. And Bps such as Duncan and Iker are a gift to the whole Christian community not just to Anglicans.

It is a hard Truth that God’s voice will not be silenced. No matter how many votes or how much influence revisionists have. He will still triumph over our human vanities.

Undergroundpewster
September 29, 2008

Send these in for Garrison Keillor to use on his next joke show.

The Little Myrmidon
September 29, 2008

Saint, how did you get an avatar into your comment?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Pageantmaster
September 30, 2008

Paula and Fuinsoig: “Updates? What Updates?”
Lambeth Palace will be posting them shortly.

Ed the Roman
September 30, 2008

Keillor would want to know what was so funny about answering C.

The Little Myrmidon
October 2, 2008

Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3 Testing my avatar.

The Little Myrmidon
October 2, 2008

Yaaaayyy!!

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