Posted by Christopher Johnson | Thursday, December 4th, 2008 | Uncategorized | 24 Comments
John Chane’s valet uses one of the Episcopal Organization’s nastiest weapons. Libel:
And on the other hand, as TEC’s Jim Naughton says from his home in the US where he is on a day off: ‘There are small ANTI-GAY Christian denominations all over the US and we have existed in the midst of these denominations for ages. At this point, this is just another of those small ANTI-GAY Christian denominations.’
Naugton continues: ‘They are distinguished from other small ANTI-GAY churches in the us by their global pretensions, but the relationships they have cultivated with a handful of likeminded leaders in Africa don’t really change the dynamic here in the US. Reporters have allowed these guys to say we at TEC are not Christians. There has to be some deep evidence that The Episcopal Church is not orthodox in its Christian beliefs for that to be justified. I do not think that evidence exists. They are trying to fly under the banner of theological orthodoxy. Really, they are just ANTI-GAY.’
Nice. “Anti-gay” four times. Guess I’ll have to add that to my Episcopal buzzword list.
Jim? Put down the bong and answer me this. When was the last time the Episcopal Organization(I invented that term for a reason, big dog, and I think you know what that reason is) said no to its homosexuals?
B033? WRONG but thanks for playing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we all know that’s who that resolution meant but the fact remains that no reference to gays, lesbians or homosexuals appears anywhere in that thing.
You and I both know that only reason that Frank Griswold pushed B033 through was to buy time; after all, Rowan Williams couldn’t justify your organization’s continued existence in the Anglican Communion after you spit in the Communion’s face the way you did in 2006.
You also know that thing was totally meaningless. Since you seem to have forgotten, your boss was one of twenty or so bishops who immediately declared B033 dead-on-arrival. And you know perfectly well that since your pointy hats got their Lambeth Conference invitations, B033 will officially put out of your misery at GenCon next year.
Play the victim some place else, Jim lad, because a lot of us stopped being impressed by that “anti-gay” crap a long time ago. Your high-church Kiwanis Club has become an organization of homosexuals, by homosexuals and for homosexuals.
Any sacrifices homosexuals might be asked to make for the greater Anglican good are injustices and crimes against humanity. On the other hand, Anglican conservatives everywhere, even those in other countries who had no say in his election, have to accept Gene Robinson as a bishop and are forced to listen to Robbie and his friends whine about it when they don’t.
Come up with an actual argument or shut up, Naughton.
And about that whole “Is the Episcopal Organization still Christian?” question, remind me again which Christian church it was that refused to find Jim Pike guilty of heresy because heresy trials were icky. Which Christian body did nothing at all about the fact that one of its bishops was an atheist?
What American Christian leader thinks that declaring that Jesus is the only way to God puts God in a small box? And which Christian church made a bishop out of an unrepentant sinner in 2003?
You know where to find me, Jim.