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Tuesday, May 11th, 2010 | Uncategorized

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men(Matthew 5:13).

Does Rowan Williams have to draw you a picture?  My gracious lord of Canterbury provides yet another reason why Christian Anglicans must cut ties with Lambeth Palace:

In an unprecedented move by a Western Christian leader, Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams has praised British Muslims for bringing back religion and ethics into public life.

“I think Islam has made a very significant contribution to getting a debate about religion into public life,” Williams, the leader of the Anglican Church, told the Muslim News.

“And I think it’s very right that we should have these debates and discussions between Muslims and Christians and others in public.”

As Mark Shea puts it, “Supernature abhors a vacuum.”  So if Dr. Williams praises Muslims for bringing religion back into public life, he is actually admitting that Muslims are doing what the Church of England has been too gutless to do for many decades.

Williams, the leader of the Anglican Church, lamented the unfriendly atmosphere for faith in British society.

“If we are not allowed as religious people to talk and argue about these issues in public then I think society has become a rather unfriendly place for religious people and that’s not helpful change.”  

The Author and Finisher of the faith Dr.Williams claims to profess said fairly early on that “society” would always be “a rather unfriendly place for religious people.”  But again, we must go back to a basic principle.

Which of these two is going to eat today?  The one who goes into the orchard and picks apples?  Or the one who hopes that somebody fills his fruit basket for him?
 
Williams called for bolstering Muslim-Christian cooperation to serve the well being of the whole community.

“The idea that what’s good for me and what’s good for you belongs together,” he said.

“Both Muslims and Christians have a very strong sense of God’s will being done in community, when we really follow the needs of the community and work for one another on that in the will of God.”

There’s also that whole Cross thing which some of us know is a great gulf fixed between Christians and Muslims since we (allegedly) believe it and know it to be essential while Muslims don’t.  But Dr. Williams is a smart man so he’ll eventually figure something out.

Thanks to Priscilla.

28 Comments to OLD NEWSPAPERS

The Pilgrim
May 11, 2010

For some reason the word “Quisling” comes to mind…

Christopher Hathaway
May 11, 2010

I think that would be unfair to Vidkun Quisling, who, though a traitor to his country, was a true fascist and he used his treason to advance to power and further the policies of his party in Norway. He got something he really wanted out of the deal.

A Bit Clueless, on the other hand, already possesses the highest position possible and fritters it away in seeming alliance with those whose long term goals are hardly agreeable to his own, if he even knows what they are. He is an idiotic and lazy sheep who sides with the wolves in his battle against the goats.

It would be generous to say he is paying to be eaten last. He doesn’t even realize he’s on the menu.

Whitestone
May 11, 2010

I rather see him as a hireling wolf in sheep’s vestment, mitre and palace.

Ed the Roman
May 11, 2010

Hilarious.

This is what happens when you aren’t willing to live according to principles without regard to the cool kids liking you. And make no mistake, which cool kids and which principles aren’t the issue as far as this goes: the same thing used to happen to go-along, get-along Muslims in the Soviet Union.

Katherine
May 11, 2010

Perhaps Rowan Williams reflects in his person the disintegration afflicting Britain altogether. Power loves a vacuum.

Dale Matson
May 11, 2010

I would rather have Mosab Hassan Yousef speak for my faith. He is a Christian convert and son of a Hamas leader willing to accept the fact that he will be eventually killed for his faith. On the other hand, the ABC sees himself as a man for all reasons. He is willing to “dialogue” with anyone including Richard Dawkins. St. Paul he is not. Does anyone see the ABC as a threat?

Floridian
May 11, 2010

What we give ourselves to serve by our thoughts, words and actions is worship. We are changed and become like what we worship. (Romans 12:1; II Corinthians 3:18)

Case in point.

Steve L.
May 11, 2010

How about Franklin Graham as ABC. Shake the place up just a little bit. Ya think DiNozzo!

Dale Matson
May 11, 2010

Steve L.
Franklin Graham’s name came to mind as I read the post and I almost mentioned him as a kind of “Anti-Rowan”.

Dale Matson
May 11, 2010

Floridian,
That mug shot of the ABC RW in the Virtue on Line post you linked to, reminds me of the arch enemy of Don Winslow, the Scorpion. I suspect anyone under age sixty would not even know about this great series. It seems like only yesterday I saw the parting waterfall that led to his lair.

Minuteman
May 11, 2010

Dale Matson “Does anyone see the ABC as a threat?”—- Yes, I agree. He occupies space and immitates Christians. He leads people astray.

Truth Unites... and Divides
May 11, 2010

The Global South and GAFCON are in communion with the See of Canterbury. The Anglican Communion is “intact.”

Dale Matson
May 11, 2010

Is Rowan Williams in communion with the See of Canterbury? (As it was passed on to him)

Truth Unites... and Divides
May 11, 2010

“Is Rowan Williams in communion with the See of Canterbury?”

The Anglican Communion Institute (Christopher Seitz, Ephraim Radner, et al) as well as many other folks think so.

Don Janousek
May 11, 2010

Muslims are bringing back ethics into public life? Which ones, Rowan? Child brides? Female genital mutilation? Blowing up buildings and people? Beheading infidels? Honor killings? Wife beatings? Gee, there are so many. Rowan probably meant all of these and more.

Now that he is so “into” Islam, I think he should go to Mecca and preach about Christ on a street corner. I mean, what’s good for you is good for me and belongs together as you put it, right, Rowan? I’ll have a local standing by with a very high-speed stopwatch to record the length of the remainder of your very, very short, very painful existence.

Robb
May 11, 2010

Another reminder why I must always thank God for delivering me from the
TEO.

Michael
May 11, 2010

Not quite knowing the politics of the Church of England, but since there is a new Conservative government will there soon be a new ABC? If not soon, when?

Bill (not IB)
May 11, 2010

The whiskered one has really outdone himself this time. He can comment on the positives of Islam, while ignoring the negatives of TEC.

None of the things which I can publicly post here accurately reflect either my feelings about ++Cantuar, or the depths to which he has capsized and then sunk the “ship” of the Anglican Communion. To me, he makes Gene Robinson and John Spong seem virtuous – after all, *he* knows better.

Katherine
May 11, 2010

No, Michael, I think the Archbishop stays until he retires, and the change in government has nothing to do with it.

midwestnorwegian
May 11, 2010

A lot of folks think Rowan is either stupid or innocuous. But, IMHO…this sh*t is flat-out evil.

Dale Matson
May 11, 2010

midwestnorwegian,
Some would say he is benign but if you have BPH you know there is nothing benign about the benign part.

JM
May 12, 2010

“And I think it’s very right that we should have these debates and discussions between Muslims and Christians and others in public.”

He doesn’t mean that. In many places, including Europe, having a debate with Muslims will eventually result in receiving violence. I don’t see that kind of courage in the ABC. We should have a debate whether the Muslim adherence to Sharia law is compatible with Western notions of democracy, freedom of speech and freedom of religion. We should debate the bona fides of the Islamic Mohammed-come-lately rejection of Judaism and Christianity. We should debate core principles of morality. But I am not holding my breath. Draw even a gentle cartoon of Mohammed and prepare for foaming-at-the-mouth, screaming, murderous rage.

LaVallette
May 12, 2010

So will the great Cathedrals of England, the greatest and grandest built by the you know who, become Museums, nightclubs, or pulled down to make space for new shopping centres or hotels or will they, in the spirit of ““Both Muslims and Christians have a very strong sense of God’s will being done in community, when we really follow the needs of the community and work for one another on that in the will of God”, be given to the Muslims to be turned into Mosques?

Allen Lewis
May 12, 2010

Once again, Rowan Williams demonstrates just how useless he has been as head of the Anglican Communion.

When he says things like this, I wonder whether he really does believe in the “Faith once given to the saints”?

Smurf Breath
May 12, 2010

if i kiss up to the muslims maybe they’ll like me

Not even Chamberlain was this clueless.

Sinner
May 12, 2010

The Global South and GAFCON are in communion with the See of Canterbury. The Anglican Communion is “intact.”

Legally no they are not. Many global south provinces are not in communion with any church, diocese, or bishop that tolerates gay ordination, consecration, marriage, civil partnership or gay partners receiving pensions.

Therefore Nigeria and many other provinces are legally not in communion with Rowan Williams.

more to the point: the global south have refused to take communion from the ABC, and do not offer it to him – that’s why for the last few years, while the GS still went to the White communion, the services were always evensong or morning prayer, and not Eucharists.

Jim the Puritan
May 12, 2010

Islam is evil. It is the Enemy’s counterfeit of Christianity.

That’s all we as Christians need to know.

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