Oh, so an ECUSA priest is an Heretic?

Big surprise. Find one that isn’t – oh you can’t. They all left.

Note to Lawrence, Harmon, Hey etc: You’re all in full communion and structural union with this guy! – whatever you might say about it.

Spfftt!!! I thought you were making this up, until I went to the IRD site and saw you had quoted this word for word. Talk about spiritual blindness and darkness. May the Lord mercifully open his eyes and grant him repentance before he gets beyond any help or hope.

Fox had to have been messing around with peyote and a few other halucinogens to come up with such a mix of Hot Pop Spiritualism. He’s covered almost all the bases with his designer religion except the worship of The One True Holy I AM GOD, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob Father, Son, Holy Spirit.who does not share His glory.

What a display of pride and rebellion.

Chris, can you go back to the libcats? You know I get soooooo embarrassed when you bring up Matthew Fox. We disagree theologically, but I would never, never, never dump this loon on anyone, not even the Episcopal Church.

Ok, maybe the Ringling Bros. Circus. Or Barnum and Bailey.

What a sad, sad man.
Prayers ascending.

If I hear one more reference to Celtic spirituality… well, it won’t be pretty, is all I’m saying.

As for Jesus being illiterate, so what about the passage in Luke where it says:

“16And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.”

I rather imagine reading from the “the book of the prophet Esaias” requires that one be literate?

Ah, well.

“Fox’s seminar was a melding of Celtic spirituality, goddess worship, panentheism (which posits that God interpenetrates every part of nature, but also transcends nature), environmental activism, and a political rejection of American “empire,” peppered sporadically with digs against the Vatican”

yet fully in communion with KJS…

For a brief moment, I thought “Johnson is putting us on.” But then I realized that even our esteemed editor, a man of such towering imagination as to both create and solve The Hound of the Inghamvilles, can’t make this stuff up.

If I hear one more reference to Celtic spirituality… well, it won’t be pretty, is all I’m saying.

(whispering) Celtic spirituality, celtic spirituality, celtic spirituality,

irish celtic spirituality, irish celtic spirituality, irish celtic spirituality

leprechaun celtic spirituality, leprechaun celtic spirituality, leprechaun celtic spirituality,

blarney stone celtic spirituality, blarney stone celtic spirituality, blarney stone celtic spirituality…

Ken, Matt Fox became the second member of the MCJ Hall of Fame(Frank Griswold was obviously the first) because of that 2005 meltdown he had when Joseph Ratzinger became the Pope. My original take was at the old site and is lost but I’m thinking of taking another run at Matt’s raving just for the heck of it and just because it is that funny.

Fuinseoig said “ As for Jesus being illiterate, so what about the passage in Luke.. ”

You see, there’s where you go off the rails, going to the original source again. That’s how cool ideas get killed, Fuinseoig. How many best-selling new-age books have you sold? Huh? Did you ever wonder why? Do you get my drift?

It just kills new ideas to always be checking them against your sources. Sheesh, you do that and pretty soon you’ll be preaching the same religion that Jesus and Paul were teaching, and then how many books are you gonna sell?

Why does the image of the snake temple in “Conan the Barbarian” come to mind when reading these rantings? Wonder what’s cookin’ in the kitchen…

TUaD, don’t make me come all the way across the ocean to smite your backside.

True Celtic spirituality is going off to live on Skellig Michael as an ascetic, or evangelising Europe. Despite the nature poetry written in the margins of manuscripts, it is not about ‘hello sky, hello trees, hello birds’.

Michael D, I accept your fraternal rebuke in a humble spirit of contrition.

You are of course completely right. Matthew Fox has to be correct, because after all, it’s not like this Christ guy was, oh, the Second Person of the Trinity or God made flesh or the Eternal Logos through whom the entire creation was made, now is it?

After all, we have no record that He ever attended the University of Jerusalem or even finished school, so obviously he had to be an illiterate peasant with some natural cunning and a rough kind of charisma, but nothing more.

I sincerely regret having to report that the RCIA class I sat through in the late 1980s was led by a still-Catholic priest who was a great admirer of Matthew Fox. Needless to say, I didn’t take him too seriously.

I took a great fright when I saw “here’s where it gets [emph. added] weird.”

Matthew Fox has crossed the line (already a bridge too far) between Gaia and Schizophrenia. I used to work with folks who fashioned tin foil hats to avoid thought insertion from the flying saucers overhead.

“In preparation for the ritual, Fox invited participants to place their feet, knees, hands and forehead in direct contact with the floor, in order to increase connection with the earth below.”

There’s nothing like communing with linoleum.

“As the “grief work” began, animal-like barking and growls punctuated guttural wails and whimpering that filled the church sanctuary, rising to a crescendo and then concluding.”

Sounds like a Furry convention without the suits. If there was video of this it’d be an instant hit on Youtube.

I do hope all Tec folks have sent “Thank you” cards to the Vatican for giving them this supreme fool. He is beyond caricature and ridicule. I only wish he would stay on his meds, see his therapist on a regular basis and quit sniffing those aerosol cans. But, I guess you can’t force mental health on someone so resistant to it. So sad.

DJ,
He meets my criteria for protective custody “Dangerous to Self or Others).

I nominate this twit to be thrown into the volcano in Iceland as a sacrifice to appease Gaia.

What can I say? I’m a traditionalist. Give me that real old time religion. Or rather, give it to him.

Also, I need to fly back from England in two weeks.

Christopher:

Thanks for making me laugh. Really, the most effective way to counter these lunatics is to laugh at them until your stomach hurts while crying out: the Emperor has no clothes.

Is there a video of this ‘religious’ theatre?

xavier

It teaches that the Christ – that is the image of God – is present in every being in the universe. This allows you a much broader canvas in which to paint your worship.”

More importantly, it allows you to worship yourself.

And Matt Fox has become an expert at that.

I would submit that Mr. Fox needs to be warned about the brown acid, but it looks like it’s way too late…

Y’know, most of us made it through the ’60s alive, looked back and realized how foolish/stupid/lucky we were, got our acts together and went on with our lives. Some of us, on the other hand, stayed in the ’60s and eventually became either LibCats or Episcopalians. Or, as in Matthew Fox’s case, both.

I was tempted as a Catholic to write that the one good reason for the continued existence of TEC is to take loons like Matthew Fox off our hands. However, one commenter above is correct. That is too unfair even to TEC.

Xavier,

Good LORD, I hope not.

If he can pick and choose so can I. I’ll take the political rejection of American empire and pass on everything else but defend his right to preach it as long as he respects my freedom.

Nasty but funny: this old has-been getting eaten by a polar bear.

Seriously, I have some respect for the man because he’s no longer nominally RC. Rome can have George Rutler; the Episcopalians can have him.

‘Celtic’ today is what ‘St Francis’ was 30-40 years ago: the nature-child stuff.

(If they love nature so much why do they defend contraception and abortion?)

(barely audible whisper)

“celtic spirituality.”

(then runs away, barely able to contain the giggling).

tee, hee.

[b]Dale Matson[/b],

I think, rather than a “tin foil hat,” that a tin foil suit is called for. The only question is who more needs him to wear one, him or us?

Pax et bonum,
Keith Töpfer

<i.Is there a video of this ‘religious’ theatre?

Just took a second to conjure this.

“Here’s where it gets weird.

Oh, like everything that went before wasn’t weird?

BTW, the latest (or current, anyway) archeological evidence suggests that Joseph was rather well-to-do, as evidenced by the family’s numerous trips to Jerusalem. Those things cost money.

Yes, Jesus could read (idiot!) and he wasn’t born to a “homeless” couple either. (sheesh!) I’m just tossing that last observation our gratuitously. This guy’s been reading too much John Domenic Crossan.

“our” = “out” Rats.

“I nominate this twit to be thrown into the volcano in Iceland as a sacrifice to appease Gaia.”

Probably wouldn’t do any good — I imagine she’d burp him right back out again.

Anyone who drags out the “homeless” trope should be immediately ignored. They had a home; what they didn’t have was a reservation.

Hey Daniel – did you notice the age of the cosmic mass party-goers?

What blows me away is the number of people who seem to relate to this silliness.

I guess it would be foolish to ask if people are just too stupid to recognize lunatic crap when they hear it?

Sheesh!

It just occurred to me: for all the times we have complained about the lack of ecclesial discipline among Catholics, Matthew Fox is a good example of when it was actually used. The Dominicans ordered him to quite teaching his drivel, at which point he split for the Episcopalians.

There’s a lesson to be learned there….

Daniel – did you notice the age of the cosmic mass party-goers?

Sorry, I could not watch for more than three seconds, especially as I was afraid to find out whether that was the Musical, Mystical Bear himself. But at least in that time I did not notice anyone younger than I.

What did strike me was how it had not been necessary to actually sell that building in order to open a disco.

I know some people who just eat this stuff up with a spoon and beg for seconds. I run away as fast as I can.

Such drivel.

It’s eminently fitting that Fox presented his little loonfest at a Unitarian-Universalist church. They will listen to anything because they don’t corporately believe in anything. Two words sum Unitarianism up: churchgoing agnosticism.

People buy into his (pardon my Anglo-Saxon)crap because he manages to weave a lot of liberal buzzwords into his spiel. Moreover, his baloney isn’t about human or divine reality; rather, it’s about that vague, general benevolence intellectually lazy people confuse with “spirituality” … the kind that revolts against dogma because it teaches hard, demanding truths that don’t automatically validate the self-image. (And, because people are taught that truth is subjective, whether his pantheistic mishmash is “true” or not is irrelevant, isn’t it?)

When I hear of Celtic Spirituality I think of the Wicker Man!

Perhaps Lord Summerisle might invite Fox as a special guest to his Celtic Festival

The animal-like barking and growls are an open manifestation that a subhuman power was at work.

And the poor fools were too blind not to figure it out? God save us!