Well, little John Jordan got one thing right when he said he wanted to show “another side to faith.” I think utter blasphemy would qualify as another side of faith. And Gosh, Oh, Gee – portraying the Second Person of the Holy Trinity as the “King of Queers” during Passion Week leading up to Pascha is just another take on the Resurrection faith tradition story, I reckon. Such a “devout” little b–t-rd. This is such completely degrading, blasphemous, gutter slop that I can’t even generate anger. Odd, but I feel the need for several showers after reading this.

Yeah, that rationale from little John Jordan is just mind-blowingly stupid. But you see, since little JJ really believes that this play will bring people together, then what he said is obviously true.

The issue is that hs has no clue as to how things work in the real world. He’s been in the theater world too long. He’s beginning to believe his own press releases.

Oh the “Ground Breaking Courage” of this man!!!! The sheer intellectual ingenuity, creativity and originality!

Now, when do we get a “Mohammed was Gay” version for the Muslims to teach them “tolerance is a key message in this play. None of us, not one of us, should ever feel alone or separated from God or whomever we believe in.”?

He’s a heretic. Plain and simple. Separation of Church and State means that the Church may not rule the State not that the church must place its own commandments and laws under control of the state

Now, when do we get a “Mohammed was Gay” version for the Muslims to teach them “tolerance is a key message in this play.

Of course we don’t. Because if he was stupid enough even to announce it, the fatwa would be out. And by now he would be dead.

Muslims believe God has standards and demands – and act on that belief.

Christians – apparently – do not.

None of us, not one of us, should ever feel alone or separated from God or whomever we believe in.”?

Once again he distorts the 2000-year old message of Christ and the church: that those who don’t believe, that those who put on or attend plays like this, most certainly will be separated from God for all eternity

What some people will do for attention. HIs career must be pretty bad already to be doing this.

*sigh*

From the Wikipedia entry on the playwright:

“In a January 2003 interview, McNally addressed critics who said he had “added” two gay characters to his Broadway adaptation of the film “The Full Monty”: “If Neil Simon had written the script, they wouldn’t have said that. I get it for being gay, for proselytising. It’s so annoying, all that bullshit.”

Um – if you put in extra characters not originally there, and they’re of a particular sexual orientation, and most of your oeuvre has been about persons of a particular sexual orientation, then yes, Terrence, it kind of is “proselytising”.

Same way if I wrote nothing but plays all about being Irish (and there’s many’s the Irish playwright has built a career on that – Conor MacPherson, I’m looking at you) and put extraneous Irish characters into a screen play adaptation of Jane Austen’s “Pride and Prejudice” and then said “I really don’t see what all the fuss is about, what do you mean I’ve got an agenda about Irishness?”.

The term ‘fecal play’ comes to mind.

This is an attempt to smear Jesus with his own sin…his feelings, thoughts, beliefs, values and perceived identity. VGR does the same thing when he reads Scripture and preaches.

I find it ironic that IF the play were written to accurately portray the passion of Christ, would it even be allowed a performance venue at the school? Wouldn’t there be protests against it by “freedom from religion” folks? Wouldn’t the school cancel the performance entirely? This is the most repulsive thing I have read since the Mapplethorpe exhibit. There is a confusion here between the passion of Christ and lust for the flesh. And here is another irony, “A British Islamic group put out a death warrant against McNally, in 1999 when “Corpus Christi” premiered in London’s Pleasance Theatre. If he visits an Islamic country, he could face arrest and execution.” Jesus Christ may not be God in Muslim Countries but there are at least consequences for blasphemy of Him as a prophet.

John Jordan Otte is an apostate ex-Mormon according to a blog called Mormonism-Unveiled
http://mormonism-unveiled.blogspot.com/2010/03/apostate-ex-mormon-john-jordan-otte.html

It is truly amazing how new age christiansgnostics think such works as Nikos Kazantzakis’ The Last Temptation of Christ, Don Brown’s The DaVinci Code, & now this drek are somehow authoritative & should be taken seriously.

Sorry, the word christians above should be struck through. Somehow, I missed with the HTML tags. Oh, well.

In 1993 I took a group of Diocese of Ft.Worth youth to a fall retreat at Camp Crucis. During Father knows best the whole gay question came up and it was pretty intense. Later that evening in my cabin we were rooming with the group of kids from this same Stephenville parish. Their two sponsors were “cowboys” who favored the same sex arguments. Later that evening I noticed one of them smoking outside. He held his cigarette like a woman. The more I watched them the more I realized that they were lovers. “Gay Cowboys”, I thought to myself. That beats all. Well turns out Broke Back Mountain wasn’t so original afterall!

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Let’s get this straight (pun intended): Stephenville is The Dairy Capital of Texas. It says so right there on the courthouse square by the big plaster cow. In fact, the first time I ever knew Tarleton State, I met a woman who had finished a master’s degree in meat processing.

The local paper says the 4 class project plays (this was one of them) were cancelled due to fear of violence. In a school with a program for butchers, I suppose that’s a concern.

And that parish in Stephenville (St. Luke’s) is one of those that decided to stay with TEc rather than follow our godly bishop Jack Iker.

Blasphemy.

Freedom of Speech.

Danish Cartoons.

Seems like the world’s going to hell in a handbasket.

Whitestone you read my mind. Kewl!!!!

The play is a reminder that not all aspects of infantile play were pleasant one. And as demonstrated by the play some of them messes is gonna need a hose.

“Seems like the world’s going to hell in a handbasket.”

And the Episcopalians are making the sandwiches.

Douchebags like this will not go away until they are either ignored or killed horribly on a consistent basis by a tyrant.

I vote for plan a. But that would mean that a lot of folks would have to endure being thought uncultured by virtue of NOT GOING TO THE THEATER when this shite is on.

I’m sorry. There are some messages that you don’t have to even read all the way through the executive summary, and this play is one. Time to get over the idea that we HAVE TO listen to current artists because whatever they say is Art.

As LaVallette noted, they are cowardly hypocrites, bullies. This is actually similar to the Muslim doctrine of taqqiya. The activists take advantage of people of good will with false ingratiating appeals to ‘tolerance’. And after they infiltrate organizations such as universities or the media, they turn around and perpetrate this stuff.

If we ever manage to take back our institutions of higher learning and our media (perhaps through mass disgust at stuff like this), we need to meet further requests of the activists to proselytize with a gentle but firm ‘no’.

They’ve revealed what they are like, and to indulge them further in the name of ‘tolerance’ is like indulging a wayward relative who asks you for yet another loan that you know he won’t repay, but will spend on drink or the like. It’s ultimately more loving for everyone involved not to allow it.

I love this quote:
“Legally we have to protect the student’s First Amendment right,” said Liza Benedict, associate vice president of marketing and communications

I wonder how quick she will be to defend the campus Young Republicans if they invited David Horowitz to come to speak?

You can get a masters degree in meat processing?

@unreconstructed rebel. The strikeout code has been updated:

It used to be that you could invoke strikeout by using <s>strikeout</s>.

Now you have to use <strike>strikeout</strike>

What surprises me is that the blatantly propaganda tactics hasn’t undermined the movement by showing people how dishonest they are. For instance:

Texas town that fancies itself the Cowboy Capital of the World.

Translation: “Well of course if cowboys are against it, it must moral! Those cowboys are so narrow minded and violent.”

Joseph is an alcoholic wife-beater

Translastion: “You see! Straight people are just as bad as gays! They are all alcoholic wife beaters!”

Even if that were true, I doubt Jesse Dirkhising (if he were still alive) or Frank Lombard’s victim would agree with that assessment. When the people you are dealing with have so often shown themselves to be untrustworthy, unable to control themselves, and blatantly immoral, it’s not unloving or unreasonable to end the conversation and put a stop to what they are trying to do. I just hope it’s not too late.

But the GLBTs, of course, deeply respect art that shows *them* in a bad light:

“The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation is appealing to the Tribeca Film Festival to pull the transgender comedy ‘Ticked Off Trannies With Knives’ from this year’s lineup.”

Allen, Thanks for the steer.

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“You can get a Master’s degree in meat processing?” So? You can get at least a Bachelor’s in Hamburgerology from McDonald’s. Let’s see – An apostate ex-Mormon produces a play about Christ as the King of Queers…and now for something completely different…..(cue Monty Python music.)

Good thing no one was tempted to say “You couldn’t top this.”

I can top it, Daniel Muller – in a link on Drudge to a local news story, some civil rights Obergrupenfuhrer in Davenport, Iowa is changing the name of Good Friday to Spring Holiday because some local government employees get the day off under their union contract and ya gotta have separation of church and state, doncha know.

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram (“Our Beloved Startlegram”) had the following editorial today:

http://www.star-telegram.com/2010/03/28/2072967/threats-teach-tarleton-state-students.html

I find interesting that they are calling for public investigation of the threats. I’m hope they do, but should it turn out the threats are a hoax, I doubt we’ll hear about that.

In case anyone is concerned, I can assure you that Corpus Christi, Texas had no Pontius Pilate H.S. in 1960, nor does it have one today. In 1960, there were two high schools, Roy Miller and W.B. Ray. There are several more today.

Ed the Roman…

This comparing this being to a douche bag is very unfair to something useful… like a douche bag…

Folks, at least get the facts straight and Ken is right. and so is Verger.
1. For course credit in drama and directing several students had to choose and put on a play. Out of those end of end assignments, eight were choosen. This student director choose this one. The media picked it up as well as the local churches and was spread via AP out of the Star Telegraph. He (student director)gave interviews and the school was in a pickle.
2. The school contacted the legal department and Tx A&M and decided that since it was a First Amendment right and an assignment to allow its production for the student body not the public.
3. By the time the alumni, sponsors, parents, students, and the media not to mention the Austin State House (AG or LtG can’t remember which, got in their two cents and mentioned the magic words–state school–state funding) suddenly all the plays are cancelled. Of course several gay activist groups wanting to come also from the outside. Too much for just a classroom assignment in a small town and a state university.
4. Horrible play so just be thankful that the mess caused it to be cancelled for the students. It was not open to the public. God intervenes in unusual ways and there were prayers going up for this school and its students.

The local paper says the 4 class project plays (this was one of them) were cancelled due to fear of violence.

Good.

Douchebags like this will not go away until they #1) are either ignored or #2) killed horribly on a consistent basis.

Not ECUSA and the Dems are both prime examples of case #1 being simply wrong. Ignore them and they shout louder and louder, and infiltrate your schools and churches, and recruit your boys to buggery and girls to lesbianism.

The Muslim world – and the relatively recently history of the US and UK/ Europe – stands testament to the virtue of #1.

killed horribly… by a tyrant.

Why by a tyrant? Why can’t the people decide? In most of the Commonwealth Blasphemy (including Northern Ireland) Blasphemy is a crime punishable by fine, imprisonment, and where used for other offences, death. In the UK Blasphemy was only removed as a crime by Tony Blair in 2008. Even in the US sodomy was only legalised in 2003! Was the US tyrannical in 2003 but now is not? Hell in theory in SC atheism is an offence against the constitution (although I guess the Federal rights overrule the state constitution).

Fact of the matter is Islamic countries and groups are much much more effective at “defending the faith” than most Christians. And this begins because (as the Pope & Henry knew) defending the faith is as much a matter of the sword as it is the pen.

First Amendment right

All the more reason to reiterate that the US Constitution is not a Christian document, and nor was the US founded to be a Christian society.

Why by a tyrant?

Because any government that punishes blasphemy by tortuous death is a tyranny, whether it’s elected or not, Sinner. You keep pretending that conservative Americans aren’t, you know, Americans.

Yeah, sodomy laws were struck down in 2003. When’s the last time anybody got the full Edward II here?

2. The school contacted the legal department and Tex A&M

That is a fantastic straight line for us Texans.

All the more reason to reiterate that the US Constitution is not a Christian document, and nor was the US founded to be a Christian society.

But then you rush on to the unwarranted conclusion that it should therefore have no laws governing sexual ethics. Or that if we support such principles that happen to agree with our religion (and most others that have existed) it is therefore a violation of the establishment clause. Dishonest, hypocritical and self serving. Is it any less a violation of the establishment clause to push for laws “just because I feel like it”? ie. trying to establish a religion based on your desires?

You keep pretending that conservative Americans aren’t, you know, Americans

Yeah. I expect you to be Christian first, and American second.
Just like you expect the liberal to be Christian first, and American second.

After all, what could be more American than commitment-free sex-on-demand?

The Anglican position on blasphemy has been clear and unwavering until 1900.
The 39 articles are pretty clear about it – and about the rights and duties of the state to enact justice.

Yeah. I expect you to be Christian first, and American second.
Just like you expect the liberal to be Christian first, and American second.

That’s a tad simplistic and self serving no? Kind of like “The townsfolk lacked the nerve to confront the desperado, therefore they are morally equivalent to him”. Come on, Sinner. You can’t expect to convince anyone with this type of reasoning. Again I ask you, are you trying to think up excuses to dismiss the Christian position by constructing straw men? Even if every professing Christian on the planet was wrong, or phony, that would not excuse you from your moral duty, would it?