OVERKILL

Thursday, March 11th, 2010 | Uncategorized

I have no qualms about corporal punishment in schools or anyplace else but this seems to be a bit much:

The U.S. Department of Education (ED) intends to purchase twenty-seven (27) REMINGTON BRAND MODEL 870 POLICE 12/14P MOD GRWC XS4 KXCS SF. RAMAC #24587 GAUGE: 12 BARREL: 14″ – PARKERIZED CHOKE: MODIFIED SIGHTS: GHOST RING REAR WILSON COMBAT; FRONT – XS CONTOUR BEAD SIGHT STOCK: KNOXX REDUCE RECOIL ADJUSTABLE STOCK FORE-END: SPEEDFEED SPORT-SOLID – 14″ LOP are designated as the only shotguns authorized for ED based on compatibility with ED existing shotgun inventory, certified armor and combat training and protocol, maintenance, and parts.

On the other hand, I have to think that my school behavior would have been considerably improved by the sight of my teacher casually polishing the ol’ classroom 12-gauge.

22 Comments to OVERKILL

Daniel Muller
March 11, 2010

I appreciate the comment, and I am not sure why the Department of Education itself is requisitioning these items, but a lot of protective service training is offered through public schools rather than standalone municipal and state departments. As a result, for example, community colleges purchase quantities of arms and ammunition.

JM
March 11, 2010

As I see it, the firepower will be controlled by the Federales.

I doubt that they will be sharing with the states and local school districts.

Does anyone remember when we talked seriously about abolishing the entire Federal Department of Education?

Robb
March 11, 2010

If they can obtain the type of flechette rounds we had in Nam,
they just might have a decent piece.

Doctor Mike
March 11, 2010

14″ barrel? I can’t get one of those without doing 5 in Club Fed – or getting randyweavered. On the other hand, these are up-close-and-personal arms. Give the local faculty some AR-15s and they won’t ever have to close the range with the Feddies.

Katherine
March 11, 2010

The link goes to a site without any of this on it.

I suppose this could be for security at the Dept. of Ed.’s Washington headquarters. Without information, it’s hard to tell what this is about.

My husband definitely scared the hell out of guys who wanted to date our teenage daughters. It should work at school, too. Somebody needs to instill discipline, and the parents aren’t doing it in many cases.

Dale Matson
March 11, 2010

The full bore shotgun advocates will choke if they ever have to use them.

Christopher Johnson
March 11, 2010

Katherine, I think I fixed the link.

Kathleen Lundquist
March 11, 2010

Somebody answer this question for me:

What does the Dept. of Education want these weapons FOR?

the pilgrim
March 11, 2010

CJ said: “I have to think that my school behavior would have been considerably improved by the sight of my teacher casually polishing the ol’ classroom 12-gauge.”

Shoot. I would have straightened up if there’d been a .410 in the cloakroom.

Kathleen, with the conditions in some of our city schools today, I think the question should be, “…what do they need these weapons for?”

Don Janousek
March 11, 2010

Why not arm the teachers AND the students? With everyone packing heat, all the students would be straight-A students, the hallways would be very polite places. Of course the usual critics will claim that due to accidents and personal feuds you might lose a few during the school year, but this would lead to smaller class sizes, a liberal goal. Seems like a win-win situation to me. Oh, and howitzers on the playground to break up fights.

jimmy
March 11, 2010

Dale, my newly-modified opinion of this issue is now tighter than it was before it was improved, but it is not yet full-y developed. Perhaps I should extend my research further to a magazine or two…

Barney
March 11, 2010

Hmmm… I’m a teacher in the inner city and a Iraqi vet. I don’t need anything more powerful in a classroom than my pen and “the look.” If stronger measures are needed, then I call for an administrator or security.

And who says that students aren’t armed? They not only carry knives, box cutters etc, but are heavily armed with the law on their side. Ohio law says we are allowed to use “such force as is necessary” to prevent the student from hurting themselves or others. Lay your hand on a kid,, even in self-defense, and loose your job and certification.

My weapon of choice, were I given one, would be napalm. I love the smell of napalm in the morning…

Robb
March 11, 2010

You da man, Barney

Dale Matson
March 11, 2010

jimmy,
I am not short but not the caliber intellect to be dueling with a magnum mind such as yours. Your range of responses had a sound trajectory. I would not want to be the target of your penetrating wit.

Anonymous Anglican
March 11, 2010

The contract is from Chicago. Anyone know what their gun control laws are? Future events in Chicago? Hmmmmmmm.

Sparky
March 11, 2010

Are these like a sawed off to give a nice pattern across a room? Say for shooting skeet at 10 feet? Perfect for the gang who couldn’t shoot straight–the Fed. Dept of Ed.

hunter
March 12, 2010

Well, you guys continue to do it time and time again………absolutely MARVELOUS……truly amazing how your humor always puts things in perspective.
Thank you !!!

Ed the Roman
March 12, 2010

Dale, you correct. Jimmy’s points are not hollow.

Dale Matson
March 12, 2010

Ed and Jimmy
Yikes! Our comments have mushroomed out of control.

Ron
March 12, 2010

I don’t know. If I had to choose between a shotgun and the paddles that Vice Principal’s used when I was in school, I’d probably choose the shotgun. It would hurt less.

Allen Lewis
March 12, 2010

I am still wondering what the Department of Education needs with 27 sawed-off shotguns.

What do shotguns have to do with education??? This is government gone amok!

jimmy
March 12, 2010

Did anyone else notice that the designation for this gun specifies Two DIFFERENT stocks, that is, the recoil-reducing Knoxx rear stock, as well as the “Speedfeed sport-solid 14″ LOP”

For the uninitiated or just the thoroughly disgusted who got so mad looking at this issue that they didn’t actually read the specifications, a fore end (forearm) stock is the piece that attaches to the slide on a pump shotgun. It has nothing to do with the LOP (Length of Pull) which is the distance from the trigger to the end of the buttstock (a distance which is variable with an adjustable stock like the Knoxx)

Therefore, it looks to me like some Board of education drone was pattern matching at the taxpayers expense and must have assumed that a gun with a 14″ barrel must require a stock with a 14″ LOP. Never mind the fact that by buying a Speedfeed stock and forearm set ($130 or so) and not using the Speedfeed stock because you already bought a fancier Knoxx one (for about $140 on our tab) as opposed to just buying the Speedfeed forearm,(about $25) they are wasting more than $100 of the peoples money per weapon.

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