YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION?
Wednesday, March 10th, 2010 | Uncategorized
First, a quick word from the United States Constitution. Article 1, Section 7, Clause 2:
Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States; If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
A concept New York Congresswoman Louise Slaughter doesn’t seem to be able to grasp.
House Rules Chairwoman Louise Slaughter is prepping to help usher the healthcare overhaul through the House and potentially avoid a direct vote on the Senate overhaul bill, the chairwoman said Tuesday.
Slaughter is weighing preparing a rule that would consider the Senate bill passed once the House approves a corrections bill that would make changes to the Senate version.
Slaughter has not taken the plan to Speaker Pelosi as Democrats await CBO scores on the corrections bill. “Once the CBO gives us the score we’ll spring right on it,” she said.
At RedState, Leon H. Wolf can’t believe his eyes.
Having determined that they lack the votes in the House to pass the Senate bills as-is, House Democrats are attempting one of the most breathtakingly unconstitutional power grabs ever witnessed – a maneuver to deem the Senate bill ALREADY PASSED by the House by rule, despite the fact that it clearly has not. Now, as we have constantly reminded our ahistorical liberal friends who have already forgotten all of 2002-2006, the filibuster is constitutional because it is a Senate rule of debate, which is expressly authorized by Article I’s delegation of power to each house of Congress to set its own rules of debate. Apparently, some Democrats can’t seem to tell the difference between a rule of debate and just declaring by rule that the House has passed a bill that they have not, when the Constitution itself expressly states that “in all [] Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by Yeas and Nays[.]”
But wait!! There’s more!! The Senate is also working on immigration reform.
Lawmakers working to craft a new comprehensive immigration bill have settled on a way to prevent employers from hiring illegal immigrants: a national biometric identification card all American workers would eventually be required to obtain.
Under the potentially controversial plan still taking shape in the Senate, all legal U.S. workers, including citizens and immigrants, would be issued an ID card with embedded information, such as fingerprints, to tie the card to the worker.
“It is fundamentally a massive invasion of people’s privacy,” said Chris Calabrese, legislative counsel for the American Civil Liberties Union. “We’re not only talking about fingerprinting every American, treating ordinary Americans like criminals in order to work. We’re also talking about a card that would quickly spread from work to voting to travel to pretty much every aspect of American life that requires identification.”
A person familiar with the legislative planning said the biometric data would likely be either fingerprints or a scan of the veins in the top of the hand. It would be required of all workers, including teenagers, but would be phased in, with current workers needing to obtain the card only when they next changed jobs, the person said.
Today, Barack Obama’s Health Care-A-Palooza tour was here in Missouri at an invitation-only event out in St. Charles, several miles northwest of here. Earlier in the day, another event took place in St. Charles consisting of people opposed to the current health care plan as well as the general drift of the country.
The second event expected a turnout of 600. Over 2,000 people showed up.
Just sayin’.
UPDATE: The President has a fundraiser scheduled in downtown St. Louis this evening for Senator Claire McCaskill. From the number of people already down there, he’s going to hear from a good bit of the opposition.
UPDATE: Enjoy taking the kids for a nice, relaxing day of fishing now and then? Enjoy it while you can.
31 Comments to YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION?
That most certainly sounds both like a perfect scheme for abuse on the part of the federal government on one side as well as – on the other – another step towards the ultimate physical mark of the Beast that ALL Mankind will be subjected to very soon!!!
This is THOROUGHLY EVIL!!!! Particularly in the hands of a communistic, total-control government that just simply can NEVER be trusted!! This truly could result in a revolution – God Forbid…
March 10, 2010
Unbelievable. Just unbelievable. The House is planning to “pass” a bill it didn’t actually pass? Obama took a solemn promise to defend the Constitution of the United States. Signing and attempting to implement such a bogus “law” would violate his oath. We are reaching banana republic status at a rapid pace.
March 10, 2010
… and the card will come in two colours: blue, and red.
Cheers
March 10, 2010
Slaughter MUST be a ‘pisky who had studied deeply the works of +KJS. She has the moves down perfectly for when the rules don’t let you do what you want.
March 10, 2010
I guess they thought decades of liberal propaganda sprinkled throughout news and entertainment had done its job by now and pickled our collective consciousnesses to the point where we would actually support this nonsense, or at least be too neutered and apathetic to do anything about it. They miscalculated. The spirit of ’76 isn’t quite dead yet.
March 10, 2010
Oh, and way to go, Missouri, for that huge protest turnout! The lefties thought they had “the masses” on their side. Wrong.
March 10, 2010
Dang. The House Democrats have already pulled stunts like this. The House Rules Committee can do just about anything it wants to, invoke the rule in the middle of the night, and pass a massive societal change like this by stealth. Unbelievable. These people should all be voted out. Every one of them.
March 10, 2010
Today’s Post-Dispatch ran a column by its reliably liberal columnist…okay, all their columnists are reliably liberal…who came out against Obamacare. If Bwana has lost McClelland, he’s lost period. I’m really hoping we can finally flip the MO 3rd District to the R column this year.
March 10, 2010
Oh dear Christopher, I thought perhaps you were calling for us to enlist to protect our bishop in SC. Whew!!!
Hope this old lady can stand two “revolutions” at once.
Cause, in SC, like in grammer school, there’s gonna be a fight should her mittness try anything funny.
Grandmother in SC
March 10, 2010
What Tregonsee said.
Unfortunately, Ms. Slaughter claims to be Catholic. However, she has never seen an abortion she didn’t like and has little regard for Church teaching. In practice she would probably fit in quite well with many current Episcopal congregations. However, I suspect she tries to hang on to the Catholic brand because it will bring in more votes than calling herself an Episcopalian.
March 11, 2010
Nice thing about the half baked house idea though… If it goes through the law can be challenged on the basis of the unconstitutional nature of its “passage”.
Thankfully, the US Government (unlike some “churches” which will remain nameless) has a functioning Supreme Court which actually takes the Constitution seriously and will rule accordingly.
Somewhere, some Republican legislator is chuckling to himself and saying “Go ahead, Louise. Make my day!”
March 11, 2010
Denise -
Pro-choice Catholic politicians will, in time, be seen as the defining scandal of American Catholicism; it’s evidence that the bishops’ “reforms” following the sex scandals were window-dressing – purely public relations – rather than a genuine repentance from the corporatist, clericalist, materialist mind-set into which they have fallen.
This is just totally disgusting. Does the Democratic (now there’s and oxymoron if I have ever seen one!) really think this is going to help their party’s chances in November? Or do they just not care any more?
These people are dangerous and need to be run out of Washington. Time for term limits for these arrogant autocrats!
Thankfully, the US Government…has a functioning Supreme Court which actually takes the Constitution seriously and will rule accordingly.
Unfortunately, I think Obama would pull an Andy Jackson: “So Justice Roberts has ruled; so let him enforce it.”
March 11, 2010
YOU SAY YOU WANT A REVOLUTION?
No.
The American Public should follow the lead from the 1960′s ECUSA House of Bishops who were fearful of a supposed “revolution” if they had excommunicated Bishop Pike for heresy.
Peace at all costs.
The price of peace can never be too great. If the House Dems succeed with this maneuver, the American Public should not do what the anti-Prop 8 folks are doing in California (they are continually trying to overturn the law against same-sex marriage).
Instead, conservatives should just try to live within what the lawmakers and the judiciary and the executive branch have decreed.
Peace at all costs. Have a Perrier Party instead.
March 11, 2010
I am no constitutional scholar or lawyer, so I could have this wrong. It seems that to challenge the constitutionality of a law, someone who has standing, that is, something at risk or some effect of the law, has to challenge it. So, for what I think is the unconstitutional requirement that citizens buy approved insurance or face a fine, someone will have to refuse and file suit. This couldn’t happen until 2013 when the first insurance exchange is open for business. However, in the case of this Slaughter maneuver, the taxes which are charged would hit immediately, and someone who is required to pay the tax can sue on the basis that the law was not legally passed.
March 11, 2010
What a bitter irony it will be if we are forced to fund abortion and euthansia because the Catholic bishops enabled the House to pass a bill the Senate remade in their own image. As if they didn’t know how politics works in Chicago DC.
March 11, 2010
Minuteman is a confirmed landlubber but “some of my best friends are” commercial fisherman and they don’t like the interference and gentle hand of NOAA even one tiny bit. Shades of government regulation of healthcare to come. Speaking of commies … Shasha did you see that the Russians plan to celebrate the anniversary of winning the Patriot War against the Nazis by putting up ten or more billboards with Stalin’s face on them?
March 11, 2010
There’s going to be a huge uproar, I hope, over a recreational fishing ban. Wow.
March 11, 2010
Let’s just give up some things for the price of peace.
That’s not asking too much.
March 11, 2010
Wow! This sure as hell ain’t your fathers America or is it Amerika?
Katherine, I pray you are right about the uproar.
March 11, 2010
So perhaps this Slaughter won’t happen. “The Senate Parliamentarian has ruled that President Barack Obama must sign Congress’ original health care reform bill before the Senate can act on a companion reconciliation package, senior GOP sources said Thursday.” From here, via the Corner at NRO.
March 11, 2010
Ah, Minuteman, why am I not surprised about Stáljin’s pictures being as part of the commemoration for Russia’s suffering in World War II??
1) That monster of all monsters was the head of the Russian – and above it, the Soviet – government (actually his reign is credited as lasting 1924-53); 2) MANY Russians (as well as Grúzians {Georgians}) are very nostalgic for those days given how much their country has been humiliated. Be it in sports, scientific, cultural or militaristic achievements – Russians have been historically trying for a patriotism where everybody must bow to them.
They’ve not as of yet understood how their working instead on local, regional and national tasks would accrue to Russia’s glory and benefit by proper work and definable goals (including keeping their Navy ships spotlessly clean, which they all too often don’t do properly!) which would raise their spirits in smaller but yet quantifiable ways…
March 12, 2010
Instead, conservatives should just try to live within what the lawmakers and the judiciary and the executive branch have decreed.
Surely the conservatives must finally exercise the constitutional option afforded by the Second Amendment?
If the US does not merit action now – when will it ever?
Nice try, Sinner. But you really need to learn to recognize sarcasm when you see it.
March 12, 2010
Shhhhhhhhh….
March 12, 2010
I think Sinner’s frightened. What’s wrong Sinner? As long as you behave yourself, no law abiding citizen would do anything to you. Carrying firearms actually deters crime.
March 12, 2010
Re: “Thankfully, the US Government (unlike some “churches” which will remain nameless) has a functioning Supreme Court which actually takes the Constitution seriously and will rule accordingly.”
The Constitution, like the Bible, is a written document. It can be rewritten under the guise of interpreting it. This has been going on in the Supreme Court for quite some time now. You either try to ascertain the original meaning (what it meant to the authors or the hearers at that time or however you would say it) or you are basically making stuff up. Of course, they do not speak in such bald terms. They couch what they are doing in all sorts of noble rhetoric, but they are basically rewriting it to implement their agenda. This is why we have Rove v. Wade, et al. While you may be sure of the four conservatives on the court, the liberals will interpret the constitution according to their political bent.
It has been often stated that the people are the essential guardians of constitutional limitations. As Judge Learned Hand said, “Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women; when it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it…” Both Madison and Hamilton argued that the people would be the ultimate guardians of the constitutional system. The Federalist, No. 15, 17, 44 & 45. Quite frankly, the people have been content to see their liberties leached away for some years now.
March 12, 2010
Sasha has morosely reminded me of a saying in those countries between Berlin and the Eastern Front:
“Come, O Red Pest, and save us from the Black Death.”
March 17, 2010
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