For an historical parallel, review the invasion of Poland by Germany 1939. The part of the Soviets is played by the ABC.

I love it that they used the same phrase “generous pastoral response”
that was so often used a couple of years back in regard to same sex union.

“The battle is over and the left has won so continuing to defend little bridges is not brave but spiritually suicidal.”

Like defending imaginary little bridges in Sodom and Gomorrah.

“That said, I can’t help but admire South Carolina’s stance.”

I don’t admire DioSC or +Lawrence. I admire +Schofield and DioSJ. Against WO. Bolted out of TEc. And got lambasted by Institutionalist-Enabler Ephraim Radner in the New York Times.

And fwiw, I admire rector Steve Wood. Anyone know what the latest news is on Rector Steve Wood and his church? He needs to protect his flock and get them out of both TEc AND the DioSC.

Goodbye PBess, goodbye Bishop Lawrence.

TU&D,
Thanks for the affirmation of our Bishop JDS and Diocese. I met with him on Monday and his health is returning following heart surgery. He is full of vim and vinegar and new ideas. His enthusiasm is contagious.
He is a visionary.

My understanding of SC law is that if 815 makes any serious efforts to interfere, they will get their butts handed to them.

Matthew,
“…they will get their butts handed to them.” What other part is there?

Dale,

This far into the farce and you need to ask?

Well, the reason for the “appeal”, was that our Supreme Court ruled that the Denis Canon had no standing in this state. And the latest kerfluffle with someone here trying to “represent” TEC tried to get confidential information from our Chancellor under the guise of friendship. He was a former Diocesan Chancellor for 10 years and claimed to “represent TEC”.

If indeed this guy did represent TEC, then +Lawrence is telling TEC where to go.. LOL (in polite terms).
The churches wishing to depart are sticking with him for now. St. Andrews Mt. Pleasant will BE at the upcoming convention, and Steve+ says the resolutions NEED to pass..

Hope this helps.
Grandmother in SC

Where is that applause button???

And when Mark Lawrence retires? Yeah, he’s young, he’s new. He’s mortal.

Who’s going to succeed him? What will the HOB look like in twenty years?

There will never be another Episcopal bishop who doesn’t like teh geh.

“the Loathsome Cult” )

“TU&D,
Thanks for the affirmation of our Bishop JDS and Diocese. I met with him on Monday and his health is returning following heart surgery. He is full of vim and vinegar and new ideas. His enthusiasm is contagious.
He is a visionary.”

He had a vision of fulfilling the Great Commission which would be so much better and spiritually healthier when his flock was safely outside of TEc.

+Lawrence doesn’t.

the PBess should have done a little research on South Carolinians before poking a stick into Bishop Lawrence’s cage…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_Ruffin

And when Mark Lawrence retires?

TEC and its lawyers are worried that, before Lawrence retires, he will watch helplessly as all his precious sheep escape to join a Christian Province, through a great big legal loophole created by the SC Supreme Court.

I’m sure the good bishop has not thought of that.

Go little sheep! Go!

Good to hear that Bishop Schofield’s health is improving. May God continue to bless him.

If Bishop Lawrence is able to beat back 815 in court, and he’s taking a positive step towards doing that, then the future for SC may or may not be TEC. If their power over him is only ecclesiastical, they have no power over him.

Sasha you have odd fantasies, perhaps better left off this site.

Chris,
I am loathe to correct a fellow blogger but I simply must point out this obvious typo:

The Standing Committee will go next replaced by still more of her tools fools.

Probably you’re right – if that’s why my comment has been deleted (as can be seen), I don’t mind. Hopefully Google or somebody else won’t have had time to take a snapshot thereof…

It’s simply my wish that all that evil those Commies in TEO are doing would somehow or other be stopped – and no, I’ve no intention or desire to get involved in any immoral activity.

Nevertheless, it could be seriously the case that Mark Lawrence IS secretly out to have his parishes escape TEO’s clutches, which would truly be wonderful!

Michael D: “Go little sheep! Go!”

Yes. Even if +Lawrence doesn’t.

The shepherd, of course, must be the last to leave. Like Gandalf against the Balrog, saying “fly, you fools!”

The Curmudgeon has written about the TEO’s “take over” procedure at http://accurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2009/02/machiavelli-ritornato.html
.

I should say litigation strategy–is there a difference?

Michael D: “The shepherd, of course, must be the last to leave.”

Has the shepherd informed the sheep that they need to leave TEc?

TUAD: I doubt it – one must be very cautious when guarding sheep from wolves, not to give the wolves an advantage.

Why do you ask? Are you a wolf?

Michael D,

Are you a wolf-enabler?

Camlann? This South Carolinian is thinking Fort Sumter.

+Lawrence is still operating, apparently, on the belief that there is a reasonable way out for the Diocese of SC. I am afraid that he – and others in the Diocese, who did not want to face the obvious – are in for a rude awakening. The SC Supreme Court ruling in the All Saint’s Waccamaw case will be helpful, but will it be enough?

In my opinion, the Diocese will die an agonizing death because there is no united leadership which has a vision other than of “dithering” and hoping for the best.

Right now, the Diocese’s choices are very limited. I do pray for them and wish them well. It will be a sad thing to see the church in which I grew up destroyed. But I am afraid that is what is going to happen. The people who really believe in the principles of Anglicanism have left long ago. The ones which are left….

I would not go so far as my friend TU..AD, but I sense that there is a lack of real passion for the Anglican Way in most of the parishes within the diocese. Even St. Andrew’s (led by Steve Woods+) is more of an evangelical, praise ‘n’ worship entity than it is Anglican. There still is the issue of WO in the diocese. So I am not too hopeful for the future of the Anglicans in the Diocese of SC.

We can only hope and pray.

Makes me glad I left for the ACC when I did.

Allen Lewis: “In my opinion, the Diocese will die an agonizing death because there is no united leadership which has a vision other than of “dithering” and hoping for the best.”

I will go as far as my friend Allen Lewis and fully agree with him.

An undershepherd who allows his flock to “die an agonizing death” is not a good undershepherd.

Regardless of what happens in the Diocese, and I am praying daily for the Diocese, the good Bishop Lawrence, and for the larger church to come to its senses, it does seem that the TEO is after a lot of pretty, but empty buildings, but no members.

“I don’t admire DioSC or +Lawrence.”

Neither do I, TUaD. His enemies are wolves; he’s a dog who purports to “ordain” women. Canines both; let them both go to the devil.