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Good morning.  I'm Tim Russert and this is Meet the Press.  The intersection of faith and American politics is always complicated.  What is a faith issue, what is a political issue and when do the two overlap?  Here to discuss his new book on the subject is...OH FOR THE LOVE OF...Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson, for some reason.









Hi, Tim.












Damn it, I thought I told you people to keep an eye out for this clown!!











What?













Nothing.  So I hear you've got a new book out or something.











That's right, Tim.  It's called The Saint Who Walks Among Us, er, uh, In the Eye of the Storm and it concerns my...













Yeah, whatever.  Bishop, I guess the first question that needs to be asked is how you...























Tim?  Tim?













WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.  PLEASE STAND BY.











Oh.  Uh.  Okay.  Listen, Tim, you don't happen to know how long this is going to take, do you?  I have a speaking engagement at St. John the Divine later this morning.












WE ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCING TECHNICAL DIFFCULTIES THAT WILL TAKE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR HOURS TO FIX AND THAT'S IF WE'RE LUCKY.  BUT A GUY WE KNOW JUST E-MAILED US THAT HE THOUGHT HE HEARD SOMEONE SAY THAT ONE OF SCHIEFFER'S GUESTS BAILED.  THE FACE THE NATION STUDIOS ARE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.  GO OUT THE DOOR AND HANG A RIGHT.







Welcome to Face the Nation.  I'm Bob Schieffer.  Will Barack Obama's long-time association with controversial Chicago minister Jeremiah Wright doom his chances with the middle American electorate?  Here to discuss this and other questions is...Episcopal Bishop Gene Robinson?!










Hi, Bob.  Actually, I'm here to discuss my new book Not Only Way More Important Than Gandhi But Still Alive: The Gene Robinson Story, I mean, In the Eye of the Storm.  Tim Russert suggested that I drop by.











I swear to God, I'm kicking Russert's ass up one side and down the other, that gutless little piece of...













Come again, Bob?













Nothing.  Control booth?  We're going to Plan B.













What's Plan B?













Technical stuff.  Bishop, I suppose the first thing that everybody wants to know about you is...













THE CBS TELEVISION NETWORK CONCLUDES ITS BROADCAST DAY.  AND NOW, OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM.










"Oh say can you see, by the dawn's early light..."





That's weird.  It's only 9:30 in the morning.












Next on Binghamton Public Access Cable.  Anglican Talk with your host, Matt Kennedy.








Hello.  On today's show, we look at the effect of the Internet on the Anglican controversy.  My guests are, from Mississippi, the chairman-and-CEO of Stand Firm, my boss and my friend Greg Griffith.








Thanks for having me, Matt.













And from out in Missouri, the Senior Editor and Publisher of the Midwest Conservative Journal, Chris Johnson.










Well, gee whiz, thanks for invitin' me on your great program there, Matt.










Happy to have you.  Greg, some on the Episcopal left have charged that the Internet has driven the current controversy.  Your response?










Well, Matt, that's true to a certain extent but also an oversimplification.  For starters...













Sorry, I'm late, Matt.  My driver couldn't find a parking place for the limo.













You have got to be kidding me.











Holy crap, the man can smell a camera from three states away!












Bishop Robinson.  What a...surprise.  Are you here to talk about your new book How's My Statue Coming Along And No, I Don't Know Who's Going To Play Me in the Movie But Thanks for Asking?








Actually, Matt, it's called In the Eye of the Storm.













I stand corrected.  Bishop, I've got one question.  How can...










A MESSAGE FROM THE EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM.  A SASHIMI WARNING HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE EASTERN UNITED STATES FROM THE ATLANTIC COAST TO THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.  PERSONS IN THE AFFECTED AREA SHOULD TAKE SHELTER IMMEDIATELY AND KEEP TUNED TO THE EBS AFFILIATE IN THEIR AREA.  THIS IS NOT A DRILL.










So much for the show.









I'm out of here.












Wait!  Where are you going?!












Where the hell do you think we're going?!!  Home!!  To be with our families!!












With any kind of luck.










But we haven't talked about my important new book.













Screw your important new book!!











I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that.

 

 

 

 

 

Pretend all you want to, moron!  But didn't you freaking hear?  SASHIMI!!  Matt?  Greg?  I'll be praying for you...for you...for you...guys and your families and stuff.  I'll be...I'll be...Oh God, I can't do this anymore!!  I have to go!!









Vince?  Kill it.






















Hello?  Is anyone there?  Hello?











Posted on 5/3/2008 6:37:52 PM , 47 comments

Submitted by Polly Prim at 5/3/2008 6:02:04 PM

Too funny! I especially liked the evolving titles of VGR's book. They're prophetic!
Submitted by Ken at 5/3/2008 6:47:06 PM

Sashimi?!

I googled that, and you are disgusting, Christopher.

Funny... but disgusting. :-)

Submitted by Christopher Johnson at 5/3/2008 6:56:14 PM

Ken,

I happen to like sashimi. Really. Can't prepare it very artistically yet but there you are. Of course, I also happen to like anchovies, haggis and(to a certain extent) Marmite so I don't know what that says about me. ;-)

Submitted by Anon-a moose at 5/3/2008 7:04:38 PM

When do you have the Dr Jim Packer interviews with Kate, Gene and that Ingham person?
Submitted by Whitestone at 5/3/2008 7:12:55 PM

CJ: "...don't know what that says about me." Says you're a bachelor, that's what it says.
Submitted by Ken at 5/3/2008 8:06:26 PM

a disgusting bachelor.

But I really can't talk, since I've located a source of marmite here and am planning to get some. I'm hoping for a vegemite source soon, too.

But only to try them... ONLY to try. And never haggis or raw fish of any kind. I'm not that wild about fish cooked.

Submitted by David Fischler at 5/3/2008 8:54:58 PM

After checking on what sashimi is, I've got to ask: are you a fan of Iron Chef?
Submitted by Ken at 5/3/2008 9:05:51 PM

You drove me to it... I went to Central Market and got some Marmite, which I am eating on some bland table water crackers. I really like the smell, and wish that came through in the taste more. The saltiness gets in the way, I think.

This is definitely an acquired taste, but one I think I could acquire.

But NO raw fish. That is NOT a happening thing.

Vegemite, apparently, is no available except over the internet.

Submitted by Bill (not IB) at 5/3/2008 9:32:34 PM

I think that this is being unfair to VGR. It implies that he's a publicity hound, chasing cameras and reporters to advance a personal agenda while neglecting his episcopal duti........(reality check)

Never mind.


ps - Sashimi is good, if you have the right kind of fish. Some of it is um, er - slimily disgusting. It's also interesting how many people have the definitions of sushi and sashimi mixed up.
Submitted by Andy K. at 5/3/2008 9:43:07 PM

Plan B was hilarious!
Submitted by Andy K. at 5/3/2008 9:45:20 PM

PS GG has an uncanny resemblance to B. Favre.
Submitted by Bob L. at 5/3/2008 11:03:53 PM

Everyone: man, woman, boy and girl from Southern Mississippi bears an uncanny resemblance to Bret Favre. I've heard it's something from the droppings of Golden Eagles getting into the food chain. Speaking of which, pile some haggis on my plate. Bob
Submitted by Katherine at 5/4/2008 12:07:52 AM

Very funny!

I've never seen Greg Griffith's photo, but now that you did this, Chris, I'll be seeing Favre's face whenever I'm visiting Stand Firm.

Submitted by Katherine at 5/4/2008 12:10:40 AM

Oh, and by the way, this sashimi thing proves you are a man of great faith. To eat raw fish, you've got to have faith in the fishermen and all the handlers from the shore right to the market where you bought it.
Submitted by Jill C. at 5/4/2008 1:11:26 AM

ROTFMAO! (And, sorry Anne, but Matt Kennedy is so cute!)
Submitted by Sodbuster at 5/4/2008 7:27:47 AM

Is this about V.G. Robinson shutting down the academic symoposium on homosexual habituation and faith by the American Psychiatric Association, because he/she was afraid that it might lend credence "to the other side" (has he been reading _Screwtape_?), the American Family Association and Dr. James Dobson? Do pickled herring count as sashimi?
Submitted by harry at 5/4/2008 8:14:26 AM

Good one Chris, Harry in St Charles
Submitted by Connie at 5/4/2008 9:04:47 AM

LOVE IT! LOVE IT! LOVE IT! Kudos! Bravo!

I am also ROTFLM_O, Jill C.

Matt Kennedy+ as a bunny? Well, I guess you're nobody until somebunny loves you...

Definitely an entry for the MCJ Hall of Fame!

Submitted by carl at 5/4/2008 10:25:56 AM

But where is the gentle dolphin? Why this blatant sexist exclusionary attitude? carl
Submitted by Carol at 5/4/2008 10:34:21 AM

I haven't laughed this hard since the picture of Miss Kate in lederhosen with her oven mitt cocked at a rakish angle.
Submitted by Gregg the obscure_ at 5/4/2008 11:00:20 AM

The swirling of a storm is reminiscent of what one sees when looking down at a draining sink. Just sayin'.
Submitted by Dr Alice at 5/4/2008 11:05:13 AM

Chris, you've outdone yourself again. "Sashimi warning" is fantastic and your picture choices (I guess these meet the definition of avatars?) just add to the hilarity. More "Meet the Press," please!
Submitted by Transponder at 5/4/2008 11:16:13 AM

Brilliant. If "laughter is the best weapon", then Chris is clearly in possession of WMD.
Submitted by Christopher Johnson at 5/4/2008 11:34:46 AM

Ken,

There are a couple of places around here where you can purchase Vegimite. That is, if you actually enjoy an inferior Marmite knock-off. ;-)

Submitted by Ken at 5/4/2008 12:22:06 PM

An Ode TO Vegemite, apparently the real Aussie version. You can order from that site, as well.

A source for New Zealand marmite, apparently a related, but very different product.

I've been sitting here tryin the marmite on crackers with various preserves and it's so-so. The lingonsylt was best (if you don't have a local IKEA store, move), with peach not too bad. The strawberry preserves were'nt right, though. Overall, I like it best just on the cracker.

Christopher, you are a bad influence on me.

Submitted by Christopher Johnson at 5/4/2008 12:33:30 PM

Ken,

This place is the reason. It's a few miles west of where I live. You can get both Marmite and Vegimite there and not just in those little jars you get in most places but the big ones. Got one of those in the pantry as I write this. This place is also where I get my haggis and kimchi. Culinary heaven, bro.

Submitted by Fuinseoig at 5/4/2008 1:37:40 PM

ROFL! Christopher Johnson, you wicked, wicked man :-)

If you culinary adventurers really must indulge in the abomination that is Marmite (and there is a difference between the British and New Zealand versions), the traditional way is to spread it on buttered toast. Take it away, Wikipedia, for more serving suggestions:

"Marmite is traditionally eaten as a savoury spread on bread, toast, and savoury biscuits. Owing to its concentrated taste it is usually spread thinly with butter or margarine. Marmite soldiers are often eaten dipped in a soft-boiled egg.

Marmite also works well with cheese (such as in a cheese sandwich). Sandwiches using this prime ingredient often consist of spreading one slice of toasted bread with margarine and Marmite, another slice of toasted bread with margarine and peanut butter, then putting the two together for a fine vegetarian or vegan sandwich. Another popular combination uses digestive biscuits instead of bread. In both New Zealand and the UK, Marmite is sometimes spread on bread with potato crisps added to make a "Marmite and Chip" or "Crisps and Marmite" sandwich.

Nigella Lawson's recipe for Marmite sandwiches: 'Whisk soft unsalted butter with some Marmite and then spread the peanut-butter coloured mix on to sliced white bread. 100g butter is enough to sandwich the slices of one loaf, the quantity of Marmite depends on whether you want a mild-tasting, buff-coloured cream or a salty-strong, sunbed-tan glaze.'

In Sri Lanka it is dissolved in boiling water and some lime juice and a fried, sliced onion is added, allegedly an excellent pick-me-up drink for recovering from a hangover. In Singapore and Malaysia, Chinese restaurants use Marmite as a marinade for stir-fried pork spare ribs. Upon frying, the heat caramelises the Marmite-based marinade into a sweet-savoury glaze. Marmite has also been added to porridge to add flavour to it."

Personally, I'd rather have the hangover. I have also heard that Marmite and marmalade go well together, but I have too much regard for my digestive tract to try that concotion.
Submitted by Christopher Johnson at 5/4/2008 6:37:18 PM

David,

I'd probably be a fan if I could see it but I don't get cable here at the MCJ Building. As for Vegimite, I guess I could buy a big jar of that to use as a prize if I ever do another MCJ contest.

Submitted by Dr Alice at 5/4/2008 6:54:16 PM

the quantity of Marmite depends on whether you want a mild-tasting, buff-coloured cream or a salty-strong, sunbed-tan glaze.'
I'm having to fan myself here...
Submitted by CPKS at 5/4/2008 7:11:42 PM

Christopher Johnson is a genius.
Submitted by StJulian at 5/4/2008 10:08:28 PM

You are so funny, Christopher! That depiction of Matt did me in...
Submitted by Ken at 5/4/2008 10:19:37 PM

Marmite update: I found these nice little toast things (like Melba toast but thicker and smaller) at the World Market, where I went looking for New Zealand Marmite and Vegemite (but found neither). They counter some of the saltiness in the marmite and let the flavor come come through better. Again, the lingonberry preserves add a nice contrast. I want to try it with peanut butter next, or maybe even Nutella.

This is bad... really, really bad... I LIKE Marmite.

Submitted by Daniel Muller at 5/4/2008 10:38:42 PM

Quit it now! I live across the street from Central Market, and about two blocks from World Market ... Good thing I am in Mexico at the moment.

I have to say that I did enjoy an enormous bowl of sashimi in Oklahoma City, of all places, last year ...
Submitted by Mike S at 5/5/2008 12:04:51 AM

Chris Johnson will be hearing from my attorneys in the morning re: damage to chair, floor, head, ribs and jaw from ROTFLMAO. The computer was saved as I had just finished my beverage. My bladder, however, broke. The mental picture of Schieffer kicking Russert's ass up one side and down the other is an instant classic. Has Greg come out of retirement yet and saved the city of Green Bay from NFL oblivion for the next 20 years? Inquiring minds want to know if Chris Johnson is related to the Zucker Bros or has been exposed to Kentucky Fried Theater.
Submitted by J. Scott at 5/5/2008 2:29:21 AM

The Queen Vic must be thrilled that s/he made the cover of the Church Times, with the headline "Unashamedly Christian, unashamedly gay." How gay is that?!
Submitted by Kathleen Lundquist at 5/5/2008 3:06:28 AM

"... sashimi warning..." -

Ooooh, yum. I'll have one salmon and one tuna, please.

Submitted by Matt Kennedy at 5/5/2008 6:36:00 AM

A bunny? A Bunny? Don't I even get ferocious teeth?
Submitted by unreconstructed rebel at 5/5/2008 7:08:27 AM

I understand the prancing Narcissist from New Hampshire is to appear on the Diane Rehm show this morning to report on the state of the EO.
Submitted by Ken at 5/5/2008 7:16:06 AM

I think sodbuster referred to this the other day, but I haven't seen a link to it here:

Robinson backs out of panel discussion

An interesting discussion of the subject is at GetReligion.

Submitted by Fuinseoig at 5/5/2008 8:44:38 AM

And another falls to the insidious vice of Marmite - Ken, my condolences to your taste buds :-)
Submitted by Mike S at 5/5/2008 9:30:56 AM

Careful Matt. They still have the Holy Hand Grenade. They just lost count; "Is it four, no three!"
Submitted by Chjristopher Johnson at 5/5/2008 11:35:57 AM

Matt,

It was an allegory. ;-)

Submitted by unreconstructed rebel at 5/5/2008 12:23:35 PM

How come His Gaity isn't in a red shirt?

Just askin".

Submitted by tjmcmahon at 5/5/2008 12:47:31 PM

Is that bunny the famed "Killer Rabbit" of "Holy Grail" fame?
Submitted by Mark Windsor at 5/5/2008 12:56:58 PM

Ken - re the raw fish - it's all in the sauce, Ken, it's all in the sauce. If the green stuff is made correctly, it'll clear your sinuses and you won't remember the fact that the fish is raw.
Submitted by Ken at 5/5/2008 1:20:10 PM

Mark, there's a little taqueria down on south Hemphill Street where I can get some green sauce that clears my sinuses. And I don't have to eat raw fish to get it. Of course, I don't order the lengua or tripas down there, but the chicharones are excellent.

And this is getting worse. There's a place up in Grapevine (just north of D/FW Airport) called "The British Emporium" that allegedly has Aussie Vegemite.

Submitted by Pseudonym at 5/5/2008 3:30:29 PM

We're ranging rather far afield from this thread's illustrious guest star, the Venerable Vicar of the Vegemite Valley himself, aren't we?
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